Released Porsche 911 GT3 Cup (992)

I'm sorry but controlling 911 cup car with throttle is not that realistic,
I have seen many many drives specifically saying power on understeer in the porsche 911 , even in street cars.
for example i remember chris harris reviewing 911 gt3 road car NOT even RS version on cold damp conditions with street tyres below their optimal temperature range. he said that porsche struggled to get rear end out even in 2nd gear corner
Look at 6:15 in video below >>


This car has significant aero boost and similar power compared to old 991 ,fatter rear tyres better suspension etc etc, so grip to power ratio is worse....i.e even harder to get rear end driven by throttle.
Especially in gear above 2nd.
Your best bet is to take away lateral grip, run stiffer rear ARB than front zero rear toe ,less wing (which will be slow as this car has low drag, low top speed you ought to utilise more rear wing).

In short what you described, perfectly matches what i heard from many actual drivers and this is what i expect.
It shows that you have not tested the car 20 laps in a row !!!, much less with the default setup
 
Hi folks, I'm posting this here as I guess most folks who have bought or are interested in the Porsche 992 will be watching this thread

Im running a test server for an hour or so with the Porsche 992 Cup @ Lime Rock, Portland & Zandvoort (All free S397 tracks). If anyone's got any free time please could you pop in just to see if theres any join issues, it is set up for short practice, quali and races but its mainly to test it works, as i've not run an RF2 server in ages!

Server name is: Tarmac Terrorist Potato (no password). Cheers to anyone who's got the time & Happy Holidays!

Hi folks! Just to let you Porsche lovers know, and seeing as the server test was successful (thanks to all who helped!). I'll be running a Live Server today which will also be livestreamed on my YT channel. It will be the Porsche (of course) @ Laguna Seca (Possibly Nurburg aswell) with proably a 15min practice session, 10 minute Quali, and 20min race. Seems there's a good amount of interest so hopeful we'll get a good sized grid. Be setting it up within the next hour or sooner, so if you're interested in having some fun with this awsome car today keep an eye on my channel for when it starts or search the RF2 multiplayer for a server called: TarmacTerrorist LIVE!

Here's hoping for a great afternoon of it, see you on track!
 
Hi folks! Just to let you Porsche lovers know, and seeing as the server test was successful (thanks to all who helped!). I'll be running a Live Server today which will also be livestreamed on my YT channel. It will be the Porsche (of course) @ Laguna Seca (Possibly Nurburg aswell) with proably a 15min practice session, 10 minute Quali, and 20min race. Seems there's a good amount of interest so hopeful we'll get a good sized grid. Be setting it up within the next hour or sooner, so if you're interested in having some fun with this awsome car today keep an eye on my channel for when it starts or search the RF2 multiplayer for a server called: TarmacTerrorist LIVE!

Here's hoping for a great afternoon of it, see you on track!
Now Going live, Lets race these lovely Beasties!
 
For me, It´s the only car In any race sim that I have played that actually tells you how to drive It :cool: Which In turn makes you very attached to the car Itself. Just like the real thing from what I see on videos.

Awesome stuff If you ask me!
 
After many driving the 992 on several tracks ... I love this new cup 992. Awsome car, Force Feedback is ... woooow.
The driving is much fun and the only little setups possibility are enough to make the cup stable for each track and driver.
The sound is amazing too also the VR driving experience.
 
Porsha is great!

a couple of races have been driven, but the problem of rear tire consumption is noticeable.
depending on how you adjust the setup, you can protect the rear tires to some extent, but then the times per lap drop.
maybe in some upgrade it wouldn't be bad to adjust the rear tires to have more grip, so that this beast would come alive on the track.
because I see that many drivers have a problem with that (back end car disco) and it kills the charm of racing a little.

who said it can't be driven on three wheels :D
 

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Porsha is great!

a couple of races have been driven, but the problem of rear tire consumption is noticeable.
depending on how you adjust the setup, you can protect the rear tires to some extent, but then the times per lap drop.
maybe in some upgrade it wouldn't be bad to adjust the rear tires to have more grip, so that this beast would come alive on the track.
because I see that many drivers have a problem with that (back end car disco) and it kills the charm of racing a little.

who said it can't be driven on three wheels :D

It sounds suspiciously like the Porsche drives like a Porsche. Being a sim it's better that people learn to drive it like a Porsche, rather than the car be modified to handle like a different car.
 
a couple of races have been driven, but the problem of rear tire consumption is noticeable.
depending on how you adjust the setup, you can protect the rear tires to some extent, but then the times per lap drop.
maybe in some upgrade it wouldn't be bad to adjust the rear tires to have more grip, so that this beast would come alive on the track.
because I see that many drivers have a problem with that (back end car disco) and it kills the charm of racing a little.
i strongly believe that consuming more rear tyres is infact typical porsche thing , especially CUP car...as it lacks proper aero grip and setup adjustments are basically non-existence.
this exact thing is confirmed via a race engineer who worked on porsche gt race cars and i also asked few IRL cup driver , and this seems to be the case.
I'm totally against anything fake physics adjustments, which is probably the case for all in sim community.
 
I have worked during some years on Porsche Cup (gen 997, 991.1 and 991.2 but not 992). The Michelin tyres ( N2 type at that time) provided for the Porsche Cup championships were made for few laps quals + 30'' race. They were incredibly fast during several laps, then were dropping significantly .
Set up must take it into account.(+ playing with brake balance during the race)
However, the tyres provided by Michelin and other manufacturers for the endurance races were much more stable, but slower.
 
i strongly believe that consuming more rear tyres is infact typical porsche thing , especially CUP car...as it lacks proper aero grip and setup adjustments are basically non-existence.
this exact thing is confirmed via a race engineer who worked on porsche gt race cars and i also asked few IRL cup driver , and this seems to be the case.

Theoretically that would make sense. However, looking at onboard tyre telemetry the fronts appear to be carrying more load as evidence by the fronts running way hotter than the rears:

 
Hi @nounoubleu, would you share some setup data like camber and tyre pressure, you where using back then? :)
Unfortunately I never worked on the 992 in real life and even my close friends would never share their precious set-up with me :)
So, I'm blind.
However, I heard it works with much less extreme set-up than its glorious ancestors. It's heavier, with more grip and aero than 991 and finally reacts bit more like a little GT3. Thus, default set-up doesn't look totally unrealistic.
 
@azaris I think the main reason for the higher tyre temperature at the fronts is that the real one is still a bit tougher to drive at the limit than the rF2 one, so he try to avoid slides of the rear axle, maybe by setup, driving style or both. You can see right at the end of his qualifying lap the rear snaps twice qiute agressive, which might cost him some time.
 
There are a lot of factors that contribute to higher front temperatures : for starter tire is wider behind, brake discs are bigger in front, braking loads the front more than acceleration load the rear, driving style in R/L is probably devoted to not make the porsche tail happy, because tail happy and slammed in the wall walk side by side. :D
 
Theoretically that would make sense. However, looking at onboard tyre telemetry the fronts appear to be carrying more load as evidence by the fronts running way hotter than the rears:

while i did say car lacks setup but it has just enough parameters to get front more loaded. I was talking more about inherent tyre wear characteristics if car is setup neutral.
another thing would be is if that tyre data is accurate or not.
to be frank , i think manufacturer would make front wear more "naturally" by un adjustable things like track width,tyre width etc....it do makes more sense to make car slight front tyre wear characteristics BUT at same time give setup option to tune that out as per team/driver's requirement.
 
This is not a F1 that is built on the requirement of your top driver for that season, this is a commercial car, you, the driver, are supposed to adapt to the car probably more than she can adapt to you.
 
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