Opinions on Assetto Corsa Physics (1.4)

QUF said:
You mean that people who convert AC tracks to rf2 have a lower quality in rf2 compared to the original track in AC? I guess so, because the "modder" who converted laserscanned tracks from AC to rf2 took the visual mesh model and multiplied the number of polygons.
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from what I've heard these conversions use the full laser scan mesh, have you seen these tracks and looked at the mesh yourself?
 
72stock said:
from what I've heard these conversions use the full laser scan mesh, have you seen these tracks and looked at the mesh yourself?
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When the person who converted the scanned nordschleife from ac to rf2 says:
"Seeing the original road mesh, it's easy to see what are the top priorities with AC, and they are not physics, but visuals. The 22.8km track, had a total of 33k verts total. That's awfully low. So AC can spend more horsepower on the graphics than rF2, which simulates a lot more things than AC does. It's surprising tho how good the feedback is in AC considering the low resolution mesh."

To me is quite clear the person who converted the track used the visual mesh, which has way less than the mesh built on the laser scan. However yea, is possible the person who converted Spa didn't do the same as the person who converted nordschleife.

However when Gonzo said in this thread, on page 7: "To which platform has their spa being converted and how is the quality? Codemasters conversions in rf2 looked disappointing." To me it seemed like he was not happy with the conversion quality.
 
QUF said:
When the person who converted the scanned nordschleife from ac to rf2 says:
"Seeing the original road mesh, it's easy to see what are the top priorities with AC, and they are not physics, but visuals. The 22.8km track, had a total of 33k verts total. That's awfully low. So AC can spend more horsepower on the graphics than rF2, which simulates a lot more things than AC does. It's surprising tho how good the feedback is in AC considering the low resolution mesh."

To me is quite clear the person who converted the track used the visual mesh, which has way less than the mesh built on the laser scan. However yea, is possible the person who converted Spa didn't do the same as the person who converted nordschleife.

However when Gonzo said in this thread, on page 7: "To which platform has their spa being converted and how is the quality? Codemasters conversions in rf2 looked disappointing." To me it seemed like he was not happy with the conversion quality.
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The Nordschleife converter is an amateur and have no clue what he is talking about.
20832m x 8m (average width of Nords) / 33000 = ~5.05 per square meter. If he thinks that that is the physics mesh, well that's his prerogative.

Stop converting without permission assholes!
 
You are going way too far calling Forum members names Mr. Mod-police officer!
Stop this!
If you don´t like that, don´t use it! Simple as that!
 
Golanv said:
The Nordschleife converter is an amateur and have no clue what he is talking about.
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Ah yes Pleclair, The very same man who spent 1000s of hours to bring us the Nords that Tosch and DJC took over when he burned out... Complete amateur of course.
You are just embarrassing yourself Golanv.
 
No wonder he left this community for good. Even back when he was active that was the kind of stuff he had to listen to, and way worse too. No gratitude, just self entitled nonsense. No wonder he got exhausted and had to quit in the end.
 
peterchen said:
You are going way too far calling Forum members names Mr. Mod-police officer!
Stop this!
If you don´t like that, don´t use it! Simple as that!
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No if you do not like it DONT LISTEN lol ? ;)

Rippers are A HOLES hehehe ;)

What do they have ESP ?

How do they know the orginal maker is not going to convert it to the same sim ?


Well ????

braindeads
 
A bit hypocritical that DD as only a couple of days ago you were posting screenshots using an illegal ripped track (Oulton Park) on this very forum.
 
hexagramme said:
No wonder he left this community for good. Even back when he was active that was the kind of stuff he had to listen to, and way worse too. No gratitude, just self entitled nonsense. No wonder he got exhausted and had to quit in the end.
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What are you talking about? I don't know his past work in modding, ok, but for illegally converting licensed content from other games into rf2 should get him gratitude?
 
QUF said:
What are you talking about? I don't know his past work in modding, ok, but for illegally converting licensed content from other games into rf2 should get him gratitude?
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Under permission he converted the Ring originally made some 8-9 years ago by Com8 and brought tweaks, as he learned the process and improved over several months. The falling off was boiled down to a couple of individual "artistic" choices vs some clamoring for authenticity (despite the track layout and geometry being off, anyway) mostly driven by some roadside elevations implemented in the track, plus personal events which kept him away for ~3 months. There was no community embrace for the Assetto 'Ring whatsoever, in fact it was quite the opposite. His words were praising the accuracy and quality of the original work, but with great surprise regarding the detail of the road mesh but citing the differences in games and how they possibly interact, therefore not making a fuss of it.
 
hexagramme said:
No, you clearly don't. :)
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Thanks for listing his work, since you do know. But I also know that PRC shared Pleclair's converted ac to rf2 nordschleife link. Which means Pleclair had to upload the converted track to a hosting website, and then share the link. And you want people to give him gratitude? You can of course give him gratitude for his past work, hexagramme, since you know his work, but you're also giving him gratitude for his recent actions?
 
hexagramme said:
Oh can I? Thank you very much QUF, I'm glad that was cleared up. :)
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Classic, dodging all arguments and only focusing on a set couple of words by trying to pass the image you are doing counter-arguments. When you're only just picking certain words and giving it a twist, without actually replying to the argument in my post. This is the 2nd post already, in this page.
 
Use the ignore button if my presence annoys you. :)

If anyone else disagrees with you, try not to make it personal and stick to the topic of the thread instead.
Just some friendly advice.

Cheers. :)
 
72stock said:
from what I've heard these conversions use the full laser scan mesh, have you seen these tracks and looked at the mesh yourself?
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I've loaded the track in editor. It didn't use the full mesh, he either failed to understand that AC uses separate mesh for physics and graphics, or he wasn't able to convert the physics mesh to rF2 (AC physics mesh vertices are placed asymmetric which probably doesn't work with rF2 as it uses same mesh for graphics and physics). AC Nords physics mesh is more precise (in terms of resolution) than anything I've seen in rF2.
 
QUF said:
Thanks for listing his work, since you do know. But I also know that PRC shared Pleclair's converted ac to rf2 nordschleife link. Which means Pleclair had to upload the converted track to a hosting website, and then share the link. And you want people to give him gratitude? You can of course give him gratitude for his past work, hexagramme, since you know his work, but you're also giving him gratitude for his recent actions?
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Is he?
 
stonec said:
I've loaded the track in editor. It didn't use the full mesh, he either failed to understand that AC uses separate mesh for physics and graphics, or he wasn't able to convert the physics mesh to rF2 (AC physics mesh vertices are placed asymmetric which probably doesn't work with rF2 as it uses same mesh for graphics and physics). AC Nords physics mesh is more precise (in terms of resolution) than anything I've seen in rF2.
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Doesn't rF2 still use an additional physical mesh too? For all the small micro stuff.
 
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