Only show wheels (not cockpit) in cockpit view.

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  1. jubuttib

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    He is using a pretty full cockpit rig though, the difference isn't huge.

    I do agree with you on principle though, since it opens up venues for cheating (possibly a server option?), though you also have to take into consideration that us looking at monitors will always have a worse view of the track than a racing driver free to move his head however he likes. Some compensation doesn't hurt.
     
  2. TonyRickard

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    For me there is just enough seat adjustment to line up the cockpit with my wheel so I can achieve the "windscreen view" in the Megane or windshield and top of the wheels in the F3. That is running 25 FOV with three screens. A little more height adjustment would allow me to see the real mirror in the Megane.
     
  3. Jim Beam

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    sounds to me like your a desk jockey without a clue Simon..seeing an ingame cockpit when you have one that you can touch and feel is more arcade than anything you are suggesting
     
  4. DrR1pper

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    Ok, i see your point. I didn't consider it from that angle however your post wasn't the easiest to understand and it came across as if you were saying that his home cockpit and no cockpit perspective was like an "arcade".

    I can certainly see how having this available in a "cockpit" only view in certain situations might be advantageous.


    For comparison, this is from only a single display and has a very small aspect ratio (the effective horizontal fov) vs. a 3x display setup:

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    Here is a 3x display pic:

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    From what i can tell in the ernespeed video, his perspective is comparable to this:

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    I've just cropped it down to simulate a lower fov setting (cos i don't have 3x displays) and the camera is pitched up a little so that you can hardly see the cockpit. This is roughly the same amount of wheel exposure as seen in the vid.


    But if you were to force the view to always show the entire virtual cockpit in sight, you will just lose some view of the sky:

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    If anything, the last picture with the v.c. (virtual cockpit) in view is more advantageous than the former as you can see more of the road (below the top of the cockpit) with the same vertical fov.

    So perhaps you are right in that it's advantageous if someone could have the v.c. perspective without the v.c. blocking their view of some of the road ahead. I think it very much depends on the car in question.
     
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    I want this option too since I'm not a sim driver. I'm an arcade-ish sim driver like webber and vettel! Yeah!
     
  6. Adrianstealth

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    Ajustment / options for this is a must

    I assume the cam amendments are not available in rf2 ( as they were in rf1 ) then ?

    Although it would be better if they were in an option menu like "advanced simulator cockpit view options "
     
  7. SimonV6

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    But they sit in full cockpit when on their sim? If you have a full cockpit to obscure your view then cool mate
     
  8. SimonV6

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    Well more of a clue than mate it seems! If anyone sits in a full cockpit sim rig with bodywork then fair enough, if not then wheels only is arcade view period
     
  9. jubuttib

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    Not realistic != arcade by the way. I've yet to see a single arcade game that only shows the wheels and suspension arms. =)
     
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  11. Panigale

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    Also would like to see this as an option. ARC has a video of a nice setup using this type of display and it looks great.

    Tim and crew, if you guys really want to get crazy provide this as an option and allow the side view mirrors to be individual screens via the multiple monitor out. Could put the nose of the rig up to the display screen and show the steering arms and wheels and have small screens acting as side mirrors. I don't think any other sim offers this so would be a unique and cool feature.
     
  12. Adrianstealth

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    Simon,

    Obviously if someone wanted to try and gain an advantage ( if it does actually offer an advantage ) anyone can ajust their insim seat position to see alot more from a higher view etc, but the people I know wouldn't bother as they (and me) don't think it offers any advantage what so ever, this no monocock view is for people who have a physical cockpit and need this view option for realism.

    Anyone without a monocock simrig etc using this option I.e just seeing two wheels and maybe a nose cone will be losing realism in fact they feel like their on a magic carpet lol.

    Arcade is need for speed / codemasters etc

    Hope these view options are in necpxt update
     
  13. Kristoff Rand

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    I think your wish just came true in Build 90.

     
  14. ernespeed

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    Thanks ISI!!!!!
     
  15. Adrianstealth

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    brill, cheers ISI

    if there anyu chance of more options i.e half cockpit (half way down bonit / monocock ) 1/3 way

    or just a figure 1 to 50 to set position

    hey i cant get nose cone view can anyone else ?
     
  16. Vinceton

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    Thank you for this wonderful feature.
    Time to bring back my amateur cockpit nose and re-adapt it to fit my csr elite. I almost threw it away.
     

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