Not enough FFB when oversteers

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  1. cyrusyn

    cyrusyn Registered

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    I was driving Dellara DW12 Indycar at Long beach. Even with new DW12 update, FFB feels very mush. No sharpness whatsoever.
    When the machine oversteers I literally notice it first from the tire sound rather from the FFB. Understeer has almost no feedback as well.
    I have followed DrR1pper's tutorial and installed the FFB gauge and gauge is mostly in green or yellow.
    I use G27 and have experimented FFB multiplier between 1 and 1.75 and pretty much the same. I measured my wheel's minimum torque at 0.12.

    How can I improve FFB from my G27?
     
  2. Prodigy

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    Aditionally you can try adding some more caster in car setup
     
  3. Marek Lesniak

    Marek Lesniak Car Team Staff Member

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    G25, G27 (and DFGT probably too) have weaker FFB around the center (to reduce oscilations). A somewhat successful workaround to this, is to increase overall FFB strenght in the driver tab, by a few %. You will get then slight non-linear FFB as low forces will be bumped up, but it should give you a better feeling around the center.

    The best you can do though (and it will basically improve feeling for every car, in every sim), is switch to a better wheel. With Thrustmaster wheels, like T300 or T500, you should already be quite happy.
     
  4. PearceYaussy

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    The main thing I have not been happy with since I git my G27 has been the FFB and a tiny bit of latency than my old MOMO didn't have... I have never been as fast with the G27. I will upgrade to a T500rs as soon as I can afford it, although I wish they made a PC version without the PS3 buttons...
     
  5. Juergen-BY

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    To reduce the weakness around center on a G25 or G27, you have to increase Steering torque minimum/FFB Minimum Torque (controller.json/Ingame). On my G27 it is 14.5%.
     
  6. MystaMagoo

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    G25/27 have 2 motors for FFB.
    When coming towards center 1 motor either stops or reduces power to avoid the oscillation mentioned.
    This is why there's a FFB 'hole' in the center.
    This can be 'removed' but only by a firmware update I think?
    Logitech won't do this or at least not yet.
     
  7. Marek Lesniak

    Marek Lesniak Car Team Staff Member

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    Right, that's also a solution (a better one probably), but notice, he already has it at 12%. Of course, it's worth to try and use your value.
     

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