That is exactly all I said GT2 feels like and got slapped as a troll. lool But it is very good visual immersion and some great audio effects ( rF2 wind is still better though ) I agree with others, I like the idea of the fogginess but it permeates everything, almost every Nords screenshot I seen looks a notch down to the normal realistic looking ambiance. ---------------- I will stick with our Nords thanks. That is what rF2 physics do for you, driving a very average beta conversion like Kyalami with many faults is still awesome. Once you hook a few turns up there and get a car on the edge , well , the scenery and textures, they just fade into obscurity.