NGTC Toyota Avensis, Chevy Cruze, BMW 125i, Ford Focus

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  1. Bjørn

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    First time I tried it, it was pretty terrible... The diff was 'backwards'... With a bit of ping-pong Andy got it sorted :)
    It's great that you like it - Andy has put in a lot of hours in each car!
     
  2. Nitrometh

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    Just noticed that I wrote about two times the same. Sorry. Even the ffb of the 125i is very very close to the real car. I'm using a g27 with 100% ffb force. Brilliant job brilliant ffb. Sound could be a bit better , but I know you have to do black magic to get exact sounds in rf2. By the way the are some good sound videos of the 125i with performance exhaust. The sound is pretty much the same, the street version is just more quiet. If needed I could provide some sound files. As I said before it's just the 2,0 l without turbo. Cheers[emoji6]

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  3. StrawmanAndy

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    Yeah the first versions of the car physics were terrible, I still remember how much you hated it. ;) Thankfully I got some good friends that helped me out, without them it still would must likely still be terrible :)

    I can't take credit for the ffb in the new update, I think Isi have updated or done something to ffb as it improved when they released a new build but I didn't change it from what we have been running for a long time (same ffb setting as v0.99)
    Sound wise I don't know how to make them. I know how to put it together but getting the sounds and then trying to put them into a game and work correctly is something I need to learn. I'm also unsure how close the road cars are to the NGTC cars. I've been to three BTCC event in the past three years, went to Silverstone 2015, and they are a lot louder and aggressive than the road version. But maybe we could edit it to make it work, but sound is something that will get improved in the future, along with full car skins from all the years
     
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  4. MarcG

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    Thanks for the Update and Mitsi, any luck getting the BMW AI faster Andy? Won't have a chance to try them out myself for awhile but looking forward to them :)
     
  5. StrawmanAndy

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    Tried to make them faster, and they are slightly but from track to track it changes. At Silverstone National at 100% strength I had the RWD lapping within 0.2-0.8 off the fastest time, so not bad but still it does have more speed in the car. Hopefully I'll get it better in the next update
     
  6. Mangoletsi

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    Hi StrawmanAndy,

    I appreciate all the work that you have done with this mod, and I don't really want to offend you. It's purely constructive criticism.

    Can you please update the variable in the BTCC_BMW_125I.TBC file on all 4 instances under tyre compounds for soft and medium, front and rears.
    Please change the value AIGRIPMULT=1.02 to AIGRIPMULT=1.07 as the BMW AI are to slow.

    Thank You

    :)


    [COMPOUND]
    Name="Soft"
    FRONT:
    TGM="Dunlop BTCC 245-650-R18x10 C98D Soft"
    DryLatLong=(1.906, 1.886)
    WetLatLong=(1.36, 1.34)
    RoadGrooveGripEffect=0.12
    RoadMarbleGripEffect=-0.11
    RoadDampnessGripEffect=-0.14
    RoadWetnessGripEffect=-0.32
    Radius=0.325
    RadiusRPM=2e-6
    Width=0.24
    Rim=(0.2483, 900000, 950, 3.0)
    SpringBase=82000
    SpringkPa=1030
    Damper=900
    SpeedEffects=(600,-1.0)
    LoadSensLat=( -3.00e-5, 0.54, 17500)
    LoadSensLong=(-1.98e-5, 0.64, 16500)
    LatPeak=( 0.13, 0.165, 10000)
    LongPeak=(0.113, 0.12, 9000)
    LatCurve="Lateral"
    BrakingCurve="Brake"
    TractiveCurve="Accel"
    CamberLatLong=(5.2, 0.11, 0.47)
    RollingResistance=853
    PneumaticTrail=6.0e-6
    HeatBasePeak=(0.11, 0.02)
    Heating=(1.0, 0.013)
    Transfer=(0.04, 1.6e-3, 3.1e-4)
    HeatDistrib=(10.5, 110)
    AirTreadRate=0.0023
    WearRate=1.74e-7
    WearGrip1=(0.986,0.975,0.97,0.966,0.962,0.959,0.956,0.953)
    WearGrip2=(0.95,0.948,0.946,0.943,0.939,0.929,0.859,0.774)
    Softness=0.7
    AIGripMult=1.07
    AIHeatRate=8.0e-6
    AIPitThreshold=0.91
    Temperatures=(90, 25)
    OptimumPressure=(150, 0.0112)
    GripTempPress=(1.95, 0.80, 0.50)
    //
     
  7. StrawmanAndy

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    @Mangoletsi

    No offence taken at all, that's really helpful. I didn't check the TBC file, I thought it wouldn't make any difference but it's made a lot. Thanks a lot :D
     
  8. MarcG

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    That'll be the reason, glad it'll be sorted :)
     
  9. Paul Fenwick

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    Can we make that change ourselves? If so how?
     
  10. Bjørn

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    Hotfix incoming for the BMW, I sense! :) Great stuff, Mangoletsi
     
  11. StrawmanAndy

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    I'm making the changes now and testing, I found 1.07 wasn't quite enough so I've done some testing and found something that works better. Just testing now, croft performance is a lot better now with BMW topping the times against the fwd. I'll probably release it today, with the lancer also getting the new ai settings
     
  12. PRC Steve

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    Brilliant !!!!
     
  13. MarcG

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    Thanks, looking forward to it :)
     
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    This mod is great!!!! It's a huge step from the last update, congratulations to all the team involved!
     
  16. Nitrometh

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    Thanks for the update. Great work. Two questions:
    Is there a shader problem on the bmw rims? Because of the dark shadow in the area of the rims near bottom?
    Does the ngtc bmw have angel eyes? The street cars have angel eyes. Maybe this could be a great add on ;)

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  17. Emery

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    Need to make this public, right now Facebook is prompting for a login. Doesn't happen with older stuff in the Notes section.
     
  18. StrawmanAndy

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    No it's just the undershadow, the Honda and other BTCC cars have this too if you look closely.
    And the angel eye don't feature on the BMW, just normal lights for them. Should try night races in these cars, the flares make them cool :cool:

    I have no control over the page so you'd have to ask Steve and co. Personally I don't see what's wrong with making an account and liking the page to show support
     
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  19. PRC Steve

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    I'll post the links on the main front page as well as in the notes.
     
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    Facebook is a horrible company that many people avoid purposefully. Anywhere else would be fine...

    BUT, I came here to say thanks Andy. These cars have been doing the rounds on the short tracks and I just can't stop.

     

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