New setting for g25/27 owner

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  1. tarros

    tarros Registered

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    hi someone can test test this setting for g25 controller and report feedback please
    i change value for_:

    Steering torque sensitivity --> increase wheel weight on g25 wheel? not sure but i feel better
    Steering effects strength --> default value
    Steering torque filter --> reduce input lag

    logitech profile
    main ffb to 95%
    all to 0

    this is my controller

    Type="1" // Type of force feedback: 0=off 1=wheel 2=joystick 3=rumble/gamepad 4=custom
    Ignore controllers="0" // Do not use FFB on: 1=controller1, 2=controller2, 4=controller3, 8=controller4 (or add values to ignore multiple controllers, for example 15 ignores all)
    Skip updates="0" // Apparently some drivers can't handle a quick FFB update rate, so use this hack to skip the given number of updates (0=full update rate, 1=half, 2=one-third, 3=one-quarter, etc.)
    Steering effects strength="10000" // -10000 to +10000, applies to all steering effects (torque, resistance, static spring, jolt, etc.)
    Off-road multiplier="0.00000" // Temporary test variable to reduce force feedback strength off-road (0.0 = zero FFB, 1.0 = full FFB)
    Steering torque filter="6" // Number of old samples to use to filter torque from vehicle's steering column (0-32, note that higher values increase effective latency)
    Steering torque per-vehicle mult="1.00000" // Per-vehicle steering column torque multiplier (this is a copy of the .CCH value)
    Steering torque zero-speed mult="0.30000" // Multiplier at zero speed to reduce unwanted oscillation from strong static aligning torque
    Steering torque sensitivity="2.00000" // Sensitivity curve applied to representable torques: 0.0=low 1.0=linear 2.0=high
    Steering torque extrap time="0.01500" // Time in seconds to extrapolate steering torque based on current change (Range: 0.001 to 0.050. To disable, set 'blend' to 0.0)
    Steering torque extrap blend="0.00000" // Higher blends of extrapolated value allows driver to feel torque changes even when actual torque exceeds 'input max' (0.0=disables, 1.0=max)
    Steering resistance type="0" // 0=use damping, 1=use friction
    Steering resistance coefficient="0.10000" // Coefficient to use for steering resistance. Range: -1.0 to 1.0
    Steering resistance saturation="0.10000" // Saturation value to use for steering resistance. Range: 0 - 1.0
    Steering spring coefficient="0.00000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0)
    Steering spring saturation="0.10000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0)
    Rumble strip magnitude="0.00000" // How strong the canned rumble strip rumble is. Range 0.0 to 1.0, 0.0 disables effect.
    Rumble strip wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
    Rumble strip pull factor="1.50000" // How strongly wheel pulls right/left when running over a rumble strip. Suggested range: -1.5 to 1.5.
    Rumble strip update thresh="0.05000" // Amount of change required to update rumble strip effect (0.0 - 1.0)
    Jolt magnitude="1.00000" // How strong jolts from other cars (or walls) are. Suggested Range: -2.0 to 2.0.
    Throttle effects strength="10000.00000" // -10000 to +10000, applies to all throttle effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?)
    Throttle effects on steer axis="0" // 0 = Throttle effects on throttle axis, 1 = throttle effects on steering axis.
    Throttle spring coefficient="0.10000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0)
    Throttle spring saturation="1.00000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0)
    Brake effects strength="10000.00000" // -10000 to +10000, applies to all brake effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?)
    Brake effects on steer axis="0" // 0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis.
    Brake spring coefficient="0.30000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0)
    Brake spring saturation="1.00000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0)
    Clutch effects strength="10000.00000" // -10000 to +10000, applies to all clutch effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?)
    Clutch effects on steer axis="0" // 0 = Clutch effects on clutch axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis.
    Clutch spring coefficient="0.20000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0)
    Clutch spring saturation="1.00000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0)
    Gearbox effects strength="10000.00000" // -10000 to +10000, applies to all gearbox effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?)
    Gearbox effects on steer axis="0" // 0 = Gearbox effects on gearbox 'axis', 1 = brake effects on steering axis.
    Gearbox spring coefficient="0.00000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0)
    Gearbox spring saturation="1.00000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0)
    Other spring coefficient="0.20000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0) for any other FFB-capable controllers
    Other spring saturation="1.00000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0) for any other FFB-capable controllers


    please give feedback
    Thanks
    Andrea
     
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  2. Lazza

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    Just quick feedback from the figures only: lowering the overall effects strength to avoid clipping seems unnecessary when you're setting your FFB to 95% in the profiler. rF2 won't ever output anything more than full force (it can't, actually) so if the profiler/windows isn't set above 100% you won't get clipping.
     
  3. tarros

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    correct you won', but testing with pedal overlay some ISI CAR clipping, also with profile @ 95% ...
    i even set 95% in logitech to prevent overload and damage g25 motor...:cool:
     
  4. Lazza

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    Well I can't argue with making the motors do less work... ;)

    If rF2 forces 'clip', or reach maximum at times, that'll still happen even if you have the overall strength at 20%. It'll just stop at 20% instead of 100%, giving you less feel.
     
  5. Spinelli

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    How would the game know if your wheel is clipping? How does the game know exactly the how much and how many different forces/effects the exact model of a given wheel can output at any moment in time?
     
  6. Digi Lauda

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    Actually you are getting more clipping when you set the forces to a max. of 8500. Normaly all forces calculated by the game are capped at 10000. Now the forces are limited to 8500 and everything above is capped to this value and that means more clipping even when your plugin doesn´t show it.
     
  7. tarros

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    ok man try with default value 10000
    someone can explain steering torque sensitivity?
    that parameter make a huge different in feeel ... or is a placebo effect?
     
  8. Digi Lauda

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    Hi tarros,

    i wrote something in this thread at #78.
    http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.p...seat-cars-steering-unstable-in-rfactor2/page4
    Of course i can´t tell exactly how ISI calculates the curves.
    But in general you can say:
    -it effects most the middle strong forces
    -you can get stronger or weaker FFB without introducing clipping or losing maximum torque (at least in theory)
    -any other setting than 1.0 changes the FFB to a non-linear behaviour (curve) - not a disadvantage when it feels better for you.....
    -you can also use values like 0.9 or 1.1 just to finetune your FFB Feeling

    I hope my Germlish doesn´t confuse you :eek:
     
  9. tarros

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    All clear ...only isi comment on parameter confusing me...
    1=linear 2=high 0=min...
    At this point need to know if under 1 was a exponetial curve...and over 1 is a logaritmic but i think so
     
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