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  1. mesfigas

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    i always wondering what wrong with my settings and i cannot downshift in this car...........the way i want
     
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    To drive a modern car, but without modern systems is not logical. The car is, what it is.
    Eliminate the downshift protection would be the same as eliminate the gear synchro, or to reduce the number of gears, or eliminate any part of the car that i don't like.
    It's supposed that the target is to simulate the reality, not to simulate what we'd like to drive.
    If i don't want new systems i can drive an older car.
     
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  3. mesfigas

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    you sound logical but you still dont get what i say
     
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    Could be barrier languages, sorry
     
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    If S397 implements downshift protection best thing would be to put upgrade option for those who don't want it with a disclaimer description about it being unrealistic (just like F2 caster option).
    Everybody happy.
     
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    So true, I added the DP to the EEC GT3 mod in AMS and it had 0 effect on people, even the aliens didn't say anything against it
     
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  7. mesfigas

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    so glad i m the minority :)
     
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    You can always implement downshift protection by yourself just assigning nothing to "gear down" in control - options. :p
     
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  9. mesfigas

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    to be completely honest in assetto corsa dsp is fine.
     
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    Downshiftprotection

    ....you guys....
     
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    Sorry but I have to disagree.
    I would prefer to run without any rev limiter at all. For many engines peak power occurs at maxinum available rpm. For those cars you need to adjust upshifting as close to the rev limiter as possible. If you do it early you lose power and if you do it late you get stuck in the limiter. In this second case the loss is big since you stop accelerating. This creates an assymetric sweet spot which without the limiter becomes more symmetric.
     
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    I asked a sincere question. I didn't expect an analysis of type of people around forums.
     
  13. Flaux

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    Why don't you let rf2's aids do the downshift? It works just fine and you're still allowed to upshift by yourself.

    #Downshiftprotection
     
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    I don’t know if it’s been updated,but when o first started driving that car,when ever I needed 2nd gear for a slowing corner,I would have to slow down way tooo much to get second gear,or brake as normal and change down into second gear at or after the apex.
    Some real life drivers had said that the the protection rpm ranges where too conservative
     
  15. mesfigas

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    i hate iracing formula renault 2 only for downshift protection
     
  16. mesfigas

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    i just prefer to learn and play without any Aid
    only auto clutch
    some games have good dsp on some cars maybe so i just got a weird feeling
    not all games behave the same on tis department
    also as a general rule "Yes'" when dsp protects the engine from drivers 2 downshifts in a row its fine.
     
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    Nothing beat the feeling of blowing repeatedly the engine of a Fiat Uno in AMS on Interlagos after mis-shifting from 4 to 1 with the awesome G27 H-shifter! I wish it had DP. OK, now maybe we can discuss sth else ?
     
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    I'm all for downshift protection. People overabuse downshifting as a way to slow down for example. I knew a guy who for example used to go from 7th down to 1st in a blink of an eye for a corner that was a 3rd gear corner. He did that only so he could run some exotic brake biases and slow down so quickly that he gained few tenths in almost every braking zone.

    If a real car has it, our cars simulating that particular car should have it. EOT.
     
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    What I think is also missed is that downshift protection actually hampers people who don't shift properly normally. It's not an advantage to miss a gearshift or two because you tried to do them too early - unless you're driving miss daisy and have 3 minutes to prepare for a corner.

    @patchedupdemon 's note on the iR FR2.0 above is interesting. If a real car has a 'feature' which is actually hampering what would be considered normal driving (ie an over-protective DSP), it would seem silly not to include that feature in the sim car. Same goes for rev-limit for me, you might well be able to go faster if it wasn't there but if that's how it is in reality then that's how it should be - which I think is your point Spaskis.

    If people want to drive a car with no electronics, drive a car with no electronics. Expecting a modern car to behave the same doesn't seem logical.
     
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    if i driver decides and not the electronics we have a modern car that drivers commands that was for Laza with all the respect ofc
    we are not against electronics
     

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