New AMD Catalyst Driver 14.1 (inc. MANTLE) - massive rF2 performance increase!!!

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  1. speed1

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    Be carefull when deinstalling everything AMD related as i did with driver sweeper, it kills everything incl. AMD USB filter driver and even the most important in my case the Southbridge drivers as well. First i didn't realise that but my T500RS lost randomly the connection and when it was connected the FFB was still different than before, until i tought to try installing the current and most actually southbridge drivers, which to my surprise turns everything back to normal again. Just a tip, may it helps someone else getting similar issues.
     
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    If they made corrections or optimizations for a specific game (due to the survey) they would almost certainly mention that in the releases notes. It seems that forcing people to completely remove the old driver might be responsible for part of the increase, it would be a measurable repeatable increase for everyone if they had actually done something specific. Hoped this would double the number of people to race.

    Maybe it's a dx9 improvement, or something that increases utilization, you would have to do tests on other software really.
    One thing is for sure it's nothing to do with mantle, ISI have not implemented it and couldn't if they wanted to, as it is only for dx11.

    It is odd how some are seeing no improvement.
     
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    13.12 (WHQL) here and after a while absent of rfactor2 (last year DEC), i tried those settings spinelli suggested, i don't have have more FPS, but a much more smoother experience. Before when i was monitoring the in build FPS counter, when it would dip from 60 to say 45, there was a major stuttering, which i just could not tolerate and gave up, now when it does the same now, there is no stutter, much smoother and very playable. Also the flickering in the distance is gone now, which was a major immersion breaker for me, i think that's due to the 4x super-sampling i have now.
    I will say going from multi to super was a major breakthrough for me, the visuals are way better. Only other major change for me was i took V-sync off altogether and cap my frames 60 in the ply file.
    This is all on the 13.12 drivers, and im hesitant to try the new 14.1, but a bit scared of beta drivers :eek:
     
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    It is possible that AMD has implemented multi-threading in the new driver release, or it might just be that those seeing the most gain really needed to do an uninstall in order to get things right with their systems. Will hold off installing until I am sure of the reasoning behind the improvements.
     
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    I'm currently on 12.11 beta11, since it performed much much better than 13.11 (some 30% better on "our benchmark").
    So for me is definitely possible that I wouldn't see any performance improvement with this update...maybe just back to 12.11 performance.
    Anyway I will give it a try when I'll have some time. ;)
     
  6. Fohat

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    I just installed 14.1, and the increase in FPS is amazing. I have a 7870, and on the worst tracks I have gone up from 50 to 80. That's 60%!! On the better ones I run 120-140, where I used to have 80 so this is by far the best drivers I have tried.
     
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    Just benchmarked 14.1, slight increase in performance with tonnes of micro stutters.

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    and this is AC with 11 AI, BMW E30 race. Near max setting except AA at 4x and no Post-AA.

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  8. Luc Van Camp

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    Still a big stutter each time I move over a text field in a GPU accelerated application (rF2, 3ds Max, PS) that has been there in every driver beyond 13.4. Makes it hard to work smoothly, so I had to revert to 13.4, yet again. Wonder if they'll ever fix that.

    Happy to see the new beta driver includes proper multithreading to unlock more hardware potential for most people and narrow the gap to NV ... and undoubtedly a brilliant marketing ploy to let this coincide with Mantle's introduction to maximize its effect :) .
     
  9. sFactor

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    Went from dirty 13.12 stable to 14.1 beta. Full Uninstall (From Control Panel) reboot and install 14.1. Triples @ 5760 x 1080 with 7870.

    I did not see any significant gains. Possibly a bit smoother but frame rates maybe ~5% increase, still lots of variation between min and max FPS.

    A small step in the right direction. I am about ready to just throw down cash on a 780 and move on. But when we fully adopt RF2 to replace RF1, that means 6 card swaps just to play RF2 in our race center, plus a bunch of ATI cards that are really still good cards for any other title that I will have to put on ebay.

    Wait a minute.... that ain't happening any time soon. :(

    Riff
     
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    So what's the word for crossfire people? Just curious to see what is going on. I'm in heaven with my GTX780 but if you're telling me my two 7870's sitting will perform better I'll make the switch. Keyword TWO as in crossfire.
     
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    This is what I've been waiting for.... now my meager machine will run rF2 like it does rF1! Eureka!
     
  12. speed1

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    Good Morning,

    little update on the 14.1 driver performance with the 290 on my pc. The overall performance is a lot more stable but not fully stutter free. I don't use sync or fps lock in rf2 but the dynamic vsync with RadeonPro where i lock the fps at 120 with and even the monitors aren't refreshing with 120hz it reduces the stutter some more and decreases tearing as well. With little compromises i finally can ride with 20AI cars. Setting compromises track details low, shadows high, shadow blur fast, particle low, reflection off, competitor detail high, AF 4x, AA 2x CCC
    The result with 20AI on LochD are min 40-45 max 120 locked with RadeonPro dynamic sync on triples and max resolution in use.
     
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    Is there a software switch that need to be flipped for Mantel to spring into action? I've a 7970 and haven't noticed a single fps difference with the 14.1 drivers.

    To confirm the drivers were installed correctly, I gave the Mantel setting in BF4 a quick test and wow, it worked better than I ever dreamed (+40%).

    Obviously the same Mantel/D11 switch doesn't exist in RF2 (yet) but is there anything I need to do to get it running?
     
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    rF2 doesn't support it. If it ever does you'll hear about it and know what to do, if anything, to switch it on.
     
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    Indeed, but some here have noticed a significant framerate increase and I'm wondering how.
     
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    If it's a genuine increase then something in the driver has changed - multithread appears to be an early candidate. Definitely not Mantle, because a developer has to put in code to support it, and ISI hasn't.
     
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    Multithreading to coincide with the first mantle release increasing the benchmark scores significantly more than if it was just mantle being enabled, increasing the fanfare of mantle and hopefully getting people interested on the dev side and the customer side. As been said already - marketing strategies ftw.

    That or they just fixed what they broke between the 12.11 and 13.12........
    The 290x should be as good as the 780ti if you look at the hardware specs, if it isn't AMD or ISI still have work to do. A x-fired pair of 290x should be the best most smooth system you could have considering they don't need a bridge. Shame when you buy all this stuff you discover you are a guinea pig in a silly two horse race. Best thing that could happen right now is some crazy dude at Samsung deciding the pc gaming gfx card market is where it's at. Imagine that, overnight you would get quality properly tested products at a more reasonable price, like what is supposed to happen in a free market.
     
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    No performance boost here. HD7850 1GB.
     
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    Might be helpful if people said which driver they were on previously, state whether they get a performance increase or not. If they do get an increase, a before and after benchmark would be good along with ccc settings if any. Otherwise you're just sort of saying "wow massive performance increase" which is not helpful as clearly a lot of people are seeing no improvement.
     
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    I'd hazard a guess that the more CPU limited a system is the less improvement it'll see with the 14.1 drivers and vice versa.
     

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