New AMD Catalyst Driver 14.1 (inc. MANTLE) - massive rF2 performance increase!!!

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  1. JonathanBenn

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    Interesting indeed. I've a feeling you'll be repeating those points over and over until the message gets through, Tim!
     
  2. Lazza

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    Considering there have been people saying the same since page 1, yeah, good luck Tim ;)

    Have you never seen driver updates giving game-specific performance gains of 10-40%+ in their release notes?
     
  3. 88mphTim

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    It depends what the change is. If AMD have made their driver multithreaded (which nVidia driver has been for 2-3 years), then the OP gains are easily attainable by a simple driver update, and will be good for just about every game out there, MANTLE or not.
     
  4. Radar

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    Unless it's already been mentioned, but I read that AMD will release the codes to other vendors, they didn't want it to become another PhysX flop (to a degree). They figured the more that take up the code, the more successfull it will be and easier for developers to port games to consoles (more GPU than CPU)..

    I'm hoping that this is correct (what I read).
     
  5. Lazza

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    The confusing part is some people seem to be getting no FPS change. It may still be smoother but that can be difficult to quantify.

    Not sure how much the nVidia/AMD thing gets discussed there Tim, but are you at all aware of whether an application can 'get around' the lack of multithreading in AMD drivers up to this point? It seems a fairly common belief that AMD underperforms in gmotor titles, so if there has been an AMD driver change that is boosting it (hopefully somewhere near the levels AMD owners would expect, relative to similar nVidia cards) is it possible other games have taken a different approach that has masked the AMD deficiency in that area?

    A lot of unknowns, I know :)

    *Radar, I think Mantle is almost off-topic for this thread :)
     
  6. MJP

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    That's just marketing 'puff' so they can't get called out for using proprietary tech, they know there's very little/no chance of Nvidia taking up Mantle unless somehow forced to.
     
  7. Radar

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    Cheers Lazza. :)
     
  8. 88mphTim

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    Some operating systems wouldn't support it... XP, I guess, would see no improvement.
     
  9. Barf Factor

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    That is exactly what I was thinking (or hoping). I'm going to test the new drivers now
     
  10. Shamrock

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    Yes, I think Tim hit the nail on the head. Multi-threaded now, and improved frame pacing. It has NOTHING to do with Mantle for rF2 improvements.
     
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  11. N0body Of The Goat

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    As in 13.12s from just before Xmas, Tim, or those 13.30s(?) from a week or so ago?
     
  12. MikeeCZ

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    Happy to hear that even AMD users now have more FPS

    Me, as i "nvidia fanboi" have totally no joy from AMD cards struggeling, as better they are, lower the prices of nVidias will have to go ;)
     
  13. Barf Factor

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    I tried setting everything to maximum in rF2, everything application controlled in CCC, using multisampling AA. I tested one AI controlled lap of Loch Drummond in the Civic. With these settings constant, there is a 10% improvement in fps between Catalyst 13.11 and Catalyst 14.1 drivers with my 7970.
     
  14. MarcG

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    maybe the later cards are having joy then as mine sees no difference in the drivers, haven't noticed any extra smoothness either. Think I'll revert back to the last non beta driver and await the next proper one.
     
  15. Tony H

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    no difference here either!
     
  16. Barf Factor

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    Did you guys fully uninstall all AMD drivers and utilities before installing the new one? Follow this to make sure you remove everything - http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/GPU57RemoveOldGraphicsDrivers.aspx

     
  17. Tony H

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    yer, I use atiman uninstaller, its the only way to get the ccc to open up after installing new drivers, and yes I do install ccc as I need it to apply eyefinity, bit impossible to get eyefinity working if ccc wont open.
     
  18. MarcG

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    yes I always completely uninstall between drivers.
     
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    Be carefull when deinstalling everything AMD related as i did with driver sweeper, it kills everything incl. AMD USB filter driver and even the most important in my case the Southbridge drivers as well. First i didn't realise that but my T500RS lost randomly the connection and when it was connected the FFB was still different than before, until i tought to try installing the current and most actually southbridge drivers, which to my surprise turns everything back to normal again. Just a tip, may it helps someone else getting similar issues.
     
  20. Murtaya

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    If they made corrections or optimizations for a specific game (due to the survey) they would almost certainly mention that in the releases notes. It seems that forcing people to completely remove the old driver might be responsible for part of the increase, it would be a measurable repeatable increase for everyone if they had actually done something specific. Hoped this would double the number of people to race.

    Maybe it's a dx9 improvement, or something that increases utilization, you would have to do tests on other software really.
    One thing is for sure it's nothing to do with mantle, ISI have not implemented it and couldn't if they wanted to, as it is only for dx11.

    It is odd how some are seeing no improvement.
     

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