Long-standing, developer-ignored problems LIST

List updated in first post.

Godwind Racing said:
I'll add this in
11. The damage.ini file needs to be revised to punish crashers because GT3s are not overpriced Cup Cars with an exotic badge because this is a sim, not an arcade driving game.




12. Excessive full course yellow periods: in one 60 minutes offline race, 4/5 of those are wasted on full course yellow and safety car periods because one car had spun off, that's why all I do is practice laps now I don't do racing anymore.
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I forgot about both of those things, thanks. Although Mazeo's suggestion should fix the frequency of FCYs, the AI doesn't bunch back up correctly. This makes the FCY last too long.

Another problem with the damage is cars are often knocked way out of alignment from very minor hits. So there's work to be done at either end of the spectrum.
 
@davehenrie sure offline development and more physics features are desired from all racers
just the fact that we all like to race onnline against eachother and online racing is very popular in general makes things like rain AI
stay at the back and watching
 
guys who can't find a group that match their pace will probably stay offline. It's great fun to watch everyone sail off into the distance. I used to race exclusively in an online league, but when that folded, I found myself going online less and less. I am extremely intrigued by driver swapping team races, but finding a group where I don't end up causing havoc is not the easiest thing in the world.
I KNOW online will be the focus of rF2, I applaud that, but don't ignore/forget/disregard the concerns that offline racers have.
 
The most important feature missing in rF2 is dynamic track temperature. Some say it affects the issue of lowest tyre pressure giving faster lap times no matter what. I hope it's just that.
It still isn't clear if/which tyre model has graining and blistering.
 
Dynamic track temp would also on top of my list. It should be pretty easy to implement, and effects all cars. I also heard, that internal test team already run some tests over a year ago. Biggest problem, and that's what also Marcel said, is to test existing content with all available tyre sets, eventually udate tyres. This process may take a while. IMO actually we're wery much on the save side with compounds, which means i'm able to use very low pressure and softest compound on most tracks without getting overheating issues. Track surface temp in the sim is static at about 30°C ATM. So i hope there shouldn't be to much changes necessary. It should be also clear, that for tracks like Suzuka or Silverstone a soft compound should overheat quickly.

I dont think graining/blistering is possible with existing tyremodel.
 
Are these things about static track temps and lowest tire pressures always being fastest true ? Or are they myths ?

I remember trying higher temps at Monaco, and doing faster laptimes than with low pressures.

Also As I look at the track temperatures in [standings] window, in the cards temps indeed appears static, but under it is written that temps change, both track temps and ambient, just as I set in the session settings.
 
Btw are they working on lighting model still? So called rear lights without rays and reflections/ pure white dots instead of headlights and so on is bothers me.
 
mantasisg said:
Are these things about static track temps and lowest tire pressures always being fastest true ? Or are they myths ?
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For me in most cases, lowest pressure is the way to go. Usually, i have the most grip, because of the large contact patch, and (bit surprising) at least wear because i dont skid that much. Now with low pressure, i get higher carcass temperature (in reality and rF2), But in rF2 there isn't that much influence on tyre surface temp. Surface temp is mainly affected by friction and moving air. Inner or carcass temp are usually higher and a lot more stable. There doesn't seems to be much temp conduction from carcass to surface, but I wouldn't get so far and say it's definately to less.
Only downside with low pressure is bit more unprecise or sometimes sluggish behaviour, especially in the first few laps. This is very well done at rF2, i like to add.
In reality with very low pressure, i may risc fatal tyre damage, blistering (example: Kimi at Monza) or together with high camber, i may rip inner sidwall driving to wide over some rough curbs at the apex.
But rF2 doesn't have tyre damage.

Sorry for OT.
 
The cars appearing/disappearing on the track (like ghosts) should be a priority to fix, it's really awful in live transmissions and during racing...
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Are you sure this is not related to the In game Online Bandwidth Settings?
If you (or for streaming the stream computer) only have set it to lower values (like 256kbps) you will not get all cars transmitted from the server, only the cars directly around you - so it's fine for racing, but cars disappear in replays. The higher the value, the more cars you'll see and the smoother the movement of the other cars will be.
 
The last time I saw lots of ghost cars happened when I set up a local Server with 40 AI and raced on it also by rf2 Player app (LAN connected). Obviously the load for the Server was too high. The AI Driver Symbols in the track bar jumped around like crazy.
I only hope for true online gaming, with low net Settings (and many use 256k actually, with ADSL you quite often have a say 6000bit download but only 500k upload, so 256k makes perfectly sense as assymetric Settings lead to Micro warps and stutterings) that you do not get temporarilly cars in front of you which result in very short periods of reduced downforce (dirty air), Maybe so short you do not even notice them but enough to get the tire into a drift
 
List updated in first post. I added the problem with incorrect aid settings, as I've encountered the same thing. I encourage others to see if they can confirm the other things you mentioned.

Stefan_L_01 said:
- HUD: downtimer Clock does not work in timed races
- HUD Exiting during practise leads to crazy values next few laps in fuel consumption and other
- Message for ABS and TC Adjustment ingame is 0 based while in Setup is 1 based, values are off by 1 together (so obivous…)
- Skin download from Drivers is a total failure, does not work reliable. Maybe tested for 100mbit glas fibre but not for 10mbit
- if you create virtual rides for same Driver (or car number?) in different mods, you get wrong loaded car ( the "first" one allways)
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UsedMomo said:
I forgot about both of those things, thanks. Although Mazeo's suggestion should fix the frequency of FCYs, the AI doesn't bunch back up correctly. This makes the FCY last too long.
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You can also change the length of the FCY in the .rfm I have it set for my road races so the safety car only does one lap unless there is still a car jammed in the fence or something similar. My biggest beef with FCY is the AI drive erratically.
 
UsedMomo said:
I was inspired by LokiD's helpful reference thread to make one of my own. This is going to end up being a very long list indeed, so you are all encouraged to pitch in.

I'll keep the list updated in this first post.

The ones I can think of at the moment:

1. Rain is completely broken.
(A) More grip on the rubbered-in parts than off the dry line. This is the opposite of reality.
(B) AI continually pits.
(C) Puddle simulation not implemented in physics.
not a bug, its just not implemented yet, so technically not a problem even though i agree its needed.
2. Unoptimized GT3 pack car models
in what way? cars run fine for performance?
3. Wrong L/D ratios in all but low-downforce trims of the LMP2
havent tested cant comment
4. Camaro GT3 not BOP'd to current cars
ISI car technically they dont have to do anything.
5. Realistic TC/ABS settings not implemented in any but the newest cars.
if you mean older s397 cars need to add it then yes, otherwise mod related or old ISI cars.
6. UI (LOL!)
7. Incomplete GT3 power pack dashboards.
Agree can be done better
8. Simplistic gearbox/drivetrain.
never on the road map to fix, although works in most cases bar history use. but agree
9. Spastic AI behavior at certain tracks.
this could be 3rd party modders not making AIW paths, so this is up to modders although there maybe some stuff S397 could do internally.
10. Disappearing cars (not related to max. visible vehicles.)
Never seen this one????
11. Illogical damage.
(A) Big hits often do too little harm.
again Mod related or if you are speaking S397 cars.
(B) Cars easily lose alignment from very minor hits.
this is fine imo, if you hit your car suspension thats what happens. again this can be mod depended and tuned damage.ini
12. Long FCYs because AI doesn't know what to do.
13. TC/ABS settings off by one notch between garage and track.
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@Daniel Surace
"8. Simplistic gearbox/drivetrain.
never on the road map to fix, although works in most cases bar history use. but agree."

I own Corvette 69 427 CUI historic GT car with manuel gearbox. If my vette had in real life clutch/drivetrain model like rF2 I had broke loads of gearboxes and most likely I would bee dead many years ago. :(
 
Ari Antero said:
@Daniel Surace
"8. Simplistic gearbox/drivetrain.
never on the road map to fix, although works in most cases bar history use. but agree."

I own Corvette 69 427 CUI historic GT car with manuel gearbox. If my vette had in real life clutch/drivetrain model like rF2 I had broke loads of gearboxes and most likely I would bee dead many years ago. :(
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Hahaha, thankfully kids these days don't jump from SIM racing into such classic cars that that would shift in the manner they learned in RF1 and 2.
 
Ari Antero said:
I own Corvette 69 427 CUI historic GT car with manuel gearbox. If my vette had in real life clutch/drivetrain model like rF2 I had broke loads of gearboxes and most likely I would bee dead many years ago. :(
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Thats awesome ! Do you take it to the limits on the track ?

And why do you have more troubles with gearbox than you would in real life (considering we don't have that car, but we have cobra and some mores 60s cars), does your car require slower shift, better revolutions matching, or what ?
 
My car is tuned to racing , yes I take it to the limits on the track.
Corvette 69 427 has original 560 hp and compression ratio 10.25:1 my car has 12.7:1 and of course bigblock engine require slower shift and good rev match. If rF2 had Corvette 69 427 I can not imagine that it is possible to simulate this car like rF2 clutch/drivetrain model is today, not even close.
I bet Cobra is the same but I don`t have any experience with it in real life. However we must remember that there are many types of old (60`s >) gearboxes and some of them don`t require use of clutch when up-or downshifting, only at start and when you are shifting to lower gears like 1 or 2 etc.
 
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