I'm on an rF2 forum right now. But I'm also on the assetto corsa forum and probably most of all on the iRacing forum. Sure there's biases, but I think mainly among people who only play a single sim. Like @Lizardfolk, if people on the iRacing forum start saying how bad rF2 is you would probably read it and say "true", "agreed", "hey what on earth are you talking about?", "yeah sort of", "miles off base there". But if you had no experience of rF2 you may hop on the bandwagon and start doxxing rF2 developers or attacking special events, trolling social media or whatever. I don't think I'm alone in having played a few different sims in my 30 odd years of mucking about with pretend race cars. So when you see people on forums, there's going to be a good chunk who have a more balanced and pragmatic view. But then you also have this witch hunt going on which is pretty alarming really. I mean things I've seen in the last few days: 1. Likely a malicious attack against one of the biggest sim events in the year. 2. Attack most likely committed by sim racers 3. Strong narrative on social media saying that this is just how rF2 is all the time. 4. In response to the statements about the attack, there's been an almost troll farm like organisation in people saying it was done to protect share price or something like that. Like literally "WAKE UP SHEEPLES IT HAPPENED WHEN IT STARTED TO RAIN!!". 5. In response to Max saying he's fed up with how the race went after all that prep I've seen people crowing over how glad they are his race was ruined because it really makes rF2 look bad and all exclusive deals should go to iRacing instead. This sect of the iRacing community can be pretty relentless really. But it's not just them. I remember seeing similar gloating around the grass dipping, brake dragging and the iRacing server issues. I think it would do everyone some good to race a different sim now and then. Try to find at least 3 things they like about it and then go back to whichever one they prefer. Because at the end of the day, this is super niche and no one benefits from a monopoly. Variety is always good too. Like if you want the best GT3 experience, it's probably going to be had on ACC. If you want the best online experience, it's probably going to be on iRacing. If you want the best simulator, it's probably going to be rFactor 2. Why cut off your nose to spite your face? I'm not saying this is all you as probably half of us here also have some kind of involvement with iRacing too. Just saying this is something in the community that anyone with an ounce of pragmatism ought to be stamping out when they see it. Regardless of whether MSGM did something to deserve it, two wrongs don't make a right.