Just figuring out various details about rF2 geometry

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  1. mantasisg

    mantasisg Registered

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    @Lazza It would definitely make sense to be so. But I wonder how exactly it is managed in game. If reference plane lies on the floor, then cars pretty much all has CG heights too low, especially some taken with drivers body mass center positioning in account. But if it is from their rideheights, then it would make much better sense. Still I feel it might not be the whole thing. In general - unsure.

    I might try reading this thread once again. https://forum.studio-397.com/index....ow-are-the-values-in-the-files-related.39775/, I would tag lordspantsington if I would be able to understand well enough to do a proper question.

    Looking at Cobra vs Howston examples in ptool/chassis.ini and their .hdv values:

    Cobra:
    chassis.ini - Front wheel center: Y(0.201); Rear wheel center: Y(0.1957)
    CorrectedInnerSuspHeightAll=(0,0,0,0)
    Ride heights - Front: (0.127); Rear: (0.1365)
    Wheel radius from .tgm: Front: (0.331471)@node38; Rear: (0.331986)@node39
    Wheel Radius from .tbc: Front: (0.338); Rear: (0.342)
    CGHeightRange=(0.344,0,1)

    Howston HG4:
    chassis.ini - Front wheel center: Y(0.0); Rear wheel center: Y(0.0)
    CorrectedInnerSuspHeightAll=(0.24755,0.24755,0.24159,0.24159)
    Ride heights - Front: (0.06985); Rear: (0.0889)
    Wheel radius from .tgm: Front: (0.3194)@node24; Rear: (0.3354)@node24
    Wheel Radius from .tbc: Front: (0.32518); Rear: (0.34062)
    CGHeightRange=(0.299,0,1)

    So in case of Cobra CISH is basically built into Chassis.ini ? Front: 0.3315( from tgm) - 0.127 = 0.2045, not exactly frotn wheel center height in chassis.ini, but almost same. In case calculating from tbc radius, difference is 0.211, whole centimeter more. But maybe slight tire deformation is taken into account ?

    In terms of cobra CG then 0.344+~0.13=0.457, which I think makes sense, but probably still bit on the optimistic side. Perhaps without driver ?

    In case of Howston, if it would use CISH all at 0, then following Cobra principles chassis.ini bodies at front should be elevated by: 0.325-0.070=0.255 if calculated by tbc radius, and 0.319-0.07=0.249, both are slightly more than actual CISH values used in Howston, but perhaps thats tire deformation taken into account ?
     
  2. Lazza

    Lazza Registered

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    @mantasisg I think you might be thinking about that backwards. If the floor height is 0.2m, and the HDV CoG height is 0.35m, the total CoG height is 0.55m.

    The note about the reference plane is to avoid modders thinking it's relative to the ground, and ending up with it much too high.

    (I may have misunderstood your post)
     

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