Jeremy Miller tweets (Senior Programmer at ISI)

fixed now?

the time is running out

 

a issue not the issue

 

It sometimes takes days even weeks for bugs to show and get reported in stable builds. All this pressure to save some hours or days for a build that we will be have to use for presumably a couple of months is completely unnecessary and negative. A stable build should primarily stable by definition. The normal procedure after passing internal testing should be releasing unstable release which should be open for feedback and bug/problem report for AT LEAST one week. After that ISI should evaluate whether releasing it as stable or correcting reported things into a new unstable release and so on.

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Can you explain how this would make things different than the information currently available? Usually we put out unstable builds a day or two before they go public.

The league I'm in simply states to stay with the previous build if the release happens within a day or so of the next race.

 

Are you in possession of a Mayan calendar that says the world is ending again?

 

That's generally what we do as well.

 

Well, thats the best option....apart when you have 3 or 4 guys who dont read anything posted anywhere and reach race day with their RF2 updated.
We understand that if a build is released it makes all sense using it right away, not delaying it. Obvious if at least we had the changelog some days before release we could decide if we should use it or not depending on what changes in RF2.
It was a simple request, nothing more than that. Cheers.

 

What Tim's saying is the unstable will be out for a couple of days at least generally, before it's confirmed as 'ok' and is released as stable. So by looking at what is in the unstable build, or what has changed, you can work out whether to move to the stable build if/when it comes out before an event. The unstable build (and its notes) provide the same help to you as early release notes would, if they could give early release notes when they don't yet know if the build they relate to is actually going to be released

Just ignoring all the insults and comments afterwards, I don't think you understand where unstable builds fit in. They may well be stable; the whole point of being released 'unstable' is that they can be tested more widely before they actually replace the 'current build'. So by releasing an unstable build ISI is actually improving the chance of the later stable build being stable, because it has already been tested by more people than the internal builds are.

As a league admin I wouldn't be using an unstable build unless it was organised as an unstable build test.

 

Absolutely as Lazza said, as a league manager we would not run any unstable build in any sort of league environment, unstable is just another word for final testing before any fixes for the stable.

As Tim mentioned we have a rule of if the update is released same day as the race we don't update. This is not always because the build may have issues but more to protect our racers who don't have lightning quick internet to download/install check their game is ok for the race. It's simply safer to run the race on the previous build where everyone knows what's going on. Once the race is over we then update any servers, our systems etc and do some basic checks to make sure nothing obvious sticks out as being a problem.

 

Posted that at 11pm (if he's in ann arbor) thats pretty late to be working on a friday night, thanks for the effort

 

The nature of development. Good to sort issue before unstable release.

 

I think Jeremy should enjoy the weekend and leave rF2 for Monday 8 am. Disappointing would have been to release such a build. I am glad they didn't.

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Anyway, it's Speedweek; who has time for sim racing?

 

Well i am dissapointed even if no-one else

 

Becasue?

 

Why are you not dissapointed?

 

I would have been dispointed, if they wouldn't have found this issue and released this build... i still can run the current build, so one more week, i don't care that much. But i will be happy, when the next build is released

 

current build has problems with MP, thatswhy the slots are reduced to 20 drivers and the problems are still there, the current prediction in MP makes the cars to lowriders and that's not all, that's the care of online drivers with current build


in other way I want to drive the ISI Karts, I can't wait

 

ok, i don't drive online that much ... than i keep fingers crossed for you

 

me too Hagen, I am racing in my first season of karts and i built my rig especially as a training tool so i cant wait for this build and hopefully the karts too!!!

I tried GSC 2013 Karts, but they have some strange issues with ffb and also i think they have drive to the front wheels for some unknown reason, so i have been waiting relatively patiently for these karts (paces up and down)