Is the future i7 or i5

[Kek700]

I must say my newly acquired GTX 980ti is certainly an impressive graphics card;
So much so that it is my processor that seems to throttle the pc when playing rfactor2. I know about the pci problems with my i7 2600k and p8p67 mb.

This leads me to ask for some more advice, cost is a factor, so should i go for i7 6700k processor or the i5 6600k, i do not know enough about hyper threading and the future of simulator software processes to take advantage of this to make a decision or the importance of the extra 2mb of cache.

I would prefer the i5 on cost but is the i7 really a better choice in the long run.

The i7 2600k has proved a good investment over the past 5 years and can still hold its own today.

I would probably go for the i5, as my opinion at the moment is that it will do every thing that an i7 will do when used for just racing simulators.

Any advise would be welcome.

 

[DurgeDriven]

Stock Intel 6600 won't even bottleneck a GTX980Ti lool

Everyone will tell you to get a K , spend more, money on mobo, ram and cooling. BS lol

i5@3.9GHz ANY single card up to 2560.............not a worry in the world

If you want to 4K or multi screen then you can start talking to me about i7 and overclocking.

 

[WhiteShadow]

http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/27069-New-gaming-system-build-for-rFactor2-Z170-or-X99

 

[DurgeDriven]

http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/27069-New-gaming-system-build-for-rFactor2-Z170-or-X99

and not even a H170 mentioned. ...oh except by me.


Some drive guys to the poor house for no good reason..........

3 SCREENS - i7

2 VIDEO CARDS - X99

1 VIDEO CARD / 1 MONITOR - i5

 

[Andregee]

Stock Intel 6600 won't even bottleneck a GTX980Ti lool

Everyone will tell you to get a K , spend more, money on mobo, ram and cooling. BS lol

i5@3.9GHz ANY single card up to 2560.............not a worry in the world

If you want to 4K or multi screen then you can start talking to me about i7 and overclocking.

4k oder multiscreen means more gpu load and that makes a faster CPUs even more unnecessary. No actual racing simulation benefits from SMT, HT or however you call the simulated cores. Project Cars and Asssetto Corsa run even slower with these technic. I got a few more fps by deactivating that in the bios.

I would overclock the 2600k because ists possible with a P chipset. A 6700k is round about 10-10% faster in games so its not worth to buy a new system

 

[Bjørn]

Stock Intel 6600 won't even bottleneck a GTX980Ti lool

Yes it will...

 

[WhiteShadow]

To single 980Ti I would buy i7 5820k and x99 mbo.

 

[DrR1pper]

To single 980Ti I would buy i7 5820k and x99 mbo.

But why would you buy the i7 over the i5?

 

[peterchen]

I too very doubt that a 2600k bottlenecks anything.........
and as already said, you have headroom to overclock! Save your money!

 

[DurgeDriven]

Yep +1

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Mind you my comments are pointed at people that must look after budget.


Having said that if I ran say 2560 Res @144Hz I know which system I would have from the 2 below !

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***Aussies take note the dollar has finally started to dig into PC prices ! >>>

 

[peterchen]

Sure Durge, I am saving money right now for a new gfx-card, but don´t know how long this will take
as I´m really poor and have to think 10 times before buying anything....

 

[DurgeDriven]

Yes it will...

Not at 2560 and below

show me your proof.

 

[Jamie Shorting]

This leads me to ask for some more advice, cost is a factor, so should i go for i7 6700k processor or the i5 6600k, i do not know enough about hyper threading and the future of simulator software processes to take advantage of this to make a decision or the importance of the extra 2mb of cache.

It's almost 2016 and it hasn't happened yet. I remember when multi core processors first came out and the talk about the possibilities it could have with gaming. Well, here we are how many years later and almost none of those possibilities have come true. Ripper asks a good question "why i7 over i5".

 

[DurgeDriven]

Sure Durge, I am saving money right now for a new gfx-card, but don´t know how long this will take
as I´m really poor and have to think 10 times before buying anything....

I just pointing out what you lose with the 6600 and overclocking is simply and utterly dwarfed by the performance increase in a GTX970 to GTX980Ti.

I mean we are talking about Gaming right ? not crunching numbers.

I dare anyone tell me that i7 /GTX970 for the same price is a better buy.

But that is the sort of list people here start with for years.......almost everyone said get a 2600K !

"Oh you want a i7 , you can overclock them well but get a good motherboard and good cooling and fastest memory........ "

I mean why buy crappy components with a $500 CPU right ?

Then they add a too good a case a too good a power supply , SSD and yep you guessed it a slower then the best GPU..........

 

[Bjørn]

Not at 2560 and below

show me your proof.

Ha, I was being a numpty! I thought you meant Q6600 (the CPU I actually (still!!! ) have)
It bottlenecks hard af!

 

[DurgeDriven]

Np BG

I say 3 screens 2 cards i7 +

Just want to make that distinction clear as a bell, that I am not saying dont buy a i7 if you can afford all the goodies.


Here is a good compare guys.

He calls this a "starter build" lmao ( 32GB ram , 1TB SSD and 8GB Sata is Starter .....okay if you say so ) lol

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/the-sweetspot-i5-6600k-sept-2015-starter-build.216215/



Okay straight away for "GAMING" I look for 10 seconds and see I can put a GTX980Ti G1 Gaming in that sucker and most likely have money to spare.

See how you go too.

 

[peterchen]

Here is a good compare guys.

He calls this a "starter build" lmao ( 32GB ram , 1TB SSD and 8GB Sata is Starter .....okay if you say so ) lol

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/the-sweetspot-i5-6600k-sept-2015-starter-build.216215/



Okay straight away for "GAMING" I look for 10 seconds and see I can put a GTX980Ti G1 Gaming in that sucker and most likely have money to spare.

See how you go too.

He! Yes, that´s a good laugh! Especially that guys that are so freaky hot about water-cooling! For an Intel. With 91W TDP! LOL! Stock-cooler does it without any probs (and is quiet by the way)!

 

[DrR1pper]

Not at 2560 and below

show me your proof.

But it will bottleneck a 980Ti in rf2 because of the pci-e 2.0. With pci-e 3.0 you get ~35% extra fps at 1080p and ~25% extra at 1440p.

 

[DurgeDriven]

But it will bottleneck a 980Ti in rf2.

@1920/2560 show me the money.

I never said a Overclocked i7 would not get good gain from cache and bandwidth but please show me where a stock 6600K goes backwards. (....... that is exactly what a 6600 is 3.9GHz Turbo)


http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2674716/4690k-bottleneck-gtx-980-sli.html

Depending on the game the i5 can very much bottleneck SLI of those two powerful cards.

I stipulated from very first comment single screen single card


The 6600-GTX980Ti I built above is a faster better gaming machine for up to 2560 then any i7 or extreme with a GTX970..............I rest my case.

 

[DrR1pper]

@1920/2560 show me the money.

I don't have empirical data for a 980Ti but i do for my GTX 770 and 970 and based on those i estimated the gains one can expect in rf2 when going from pci-e 2.0 x16 to 3.0 x16.

Here's my most recent test results with a 970: http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.p...her-end-cards!?p=382841&viewfull=1#post382841

Gains were 22% at 1920x1080 and 16% at 2560x1440 with my 970. Applying the performance difference between 970 and 980Ti onto those values, gives me estimated gains of ~35% at 1920x1080 and ~25% at 2560x1440 for a 980Ti when switching from pci-e 2.0 x16 to 3.0 x16.




edit: oops. Misread your post where you said "Not at 2560 and below" and thought you were referring to an i5 2000 series cpu. My mistake, please ignore. Partly because like Bjørn i too thought you were referring to the e/q6600 when you said "Stock Intel 6600". I know how silly of a mistake that is lol. I used those cpu's for many years back then.