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SLuisHamilton said:
This turn seems very dangerous with so close guardrail.
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Dangerous for the drivers. Awesome for the fans. You can get so damn close to the action on the Nordschleife, it's really crazy. That's one of the main attractions of the Nürburgring.

EDIT: that's another example of failed overtaking and close guardrails at the Nürburgring:

It's crazy when you know, that spectators are able to stand right behind that fence the Z4 hit.

And here you can watch how forceful the faster cars overtake sometimes (watch from 38:30):
 
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It does not look like much fun in the slower cars. A Nice challenge for the faster cars, but boy, you have to be GOOD. Make a mistake, and it's race over for you, some other cars, and perhaps even a fan or two.

On another note, can the view of the track be that great, that it is worth putting your life in danger?
 
Richard Chmielewski said:
On another note, can the view of the track be that great, that it is worth putting your life in danger?
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In most places you have the FIA Fence between you and the cars. So mostly, there shouldn't be any danger for you. But yes, the experience is worth some risk. On the Döttinger höhe, standing 1.5 m from the track when an SLS flies by with 270 km/h is quite an experience :p
 
I'd kill to see this in rfactor2! imagine this + real road !


Or a Lotus Esprit Turbo
 
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H.J. Stuck in his BMW M3 at the 'ring. still one of my favourites.

 
Yea sugarfoot, that's one tasty piece of driving all right, I've watched it before ..& as well as enjoying vicariously the skills of a very quick driver completely at home with his car and the track; the other thing I notice & appreciate is how similar the virtual Nordschleifes are that we also enjoy - a big thanks from me to the highly skilled enthusiasts amongst us who share their efforts with us for the pleasure of sharing :)
 
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very interesting footcam here: watch from 0:50 on. He uses the HEEL on the brake, and the toe on the gaspedal...and then jumps with his left foot onto the brake, while still braking, so he can balance the car with the throttle.
I always felt, that heel and toeing gives you the problem, that you can't balance the car with the throttle while braking and downshifting. this guy solved that the crazy way :-P
 
JJStrack said:

very interesting footcam here: watch from 0:50 on. He uses the HEEL on the brake, and the toe on the gaspedal...and then jumps with his left foot onto the brake, while still braking, so he can balance the car with the throttle.
I always felt, that heel and toeing gives you the problem, that you can't balance the car with the throttle while braking and downshifting. this guy solved that the crazy way :-P
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Great to watch his pedal inputs with the steering column at the same time.

When he is pumping the brake i can see that he is doing it to stabilise the car through a high speed turn, but he is also doing it into hard braking zones. Is this a common technique when driving nascar on a road course or is it used elsewhere?

Do drivers also have to realign the brakes as i've seen in some other cars?
 


Will this be included in the BTCC content for RF2?! :D
 
 
Hectari said:
Great to watch his pedal inputs with the steering column at the same time.

When he is pumping the brake i can see that he is doing it to stabilise the car through a high speed turn, but he is also doing it into hard braking zones. Is this a common technique when driving nascar on a road course or is it used elsewhere?

Do drivers also have to realign the brakes as i've seen in some other cars?
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Often that pumping is done to get the brake-pressure up, so that you instantly have all the braking power in the braking zone.
But I'm absolutly no expert on all this :D
What do you mean with "realign"?
 
JJStrack said:
Often that pumping is done to get the brake-pressure up, so that you instantly have all the braking power in the braking zone.
But I'm absolutly no expert on all this :D
What do you mean with "realign"?
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The dab on the brake this driver makes before most braking zones, i thought it was to do with aligning the calipers to make sure the brakes are there when you need them.

I remember this being discussed before but i cant remember the techicalities of it. Maybe the calipers have a tendency to sit out further after hard braking and need re-aligned?

 
The footwork these guys do is quite amazing. :cool:

I`m no expert by any means on this stuff but I`ve always thought the little dab of the brakes was to make sure there`s brake pressure there before nailing them hard for a corner...
 
Vibrations and impacts to the wheel/caliper assemblies make the pistons retract slightly. (Anyone who has had a tank slapper on a motorbike will have experienced this) When you come to press the brake pedal the pistons/pads have further to travel before contacting the disc, making the 'feel' all wrong and in the worst cases causing late application. The 'dab' pushes them out to their normal position.
 
kaptainkremmen said:
Vibrations and impacts to the wheel/caliper assemblies make the pistons retract slightly. (Anyone who has had a tank slapper on a motorbike will have experienced this) When you come to press the brake pedal the pistons/pads have further to travel before contacting the disc, making the 'feel' all wrong and in the worst cases causing late application. The 'dab' pushes them out to their normal position.
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Thanks that explains it the way i thought i had read before.

Thankfully the only tankslappers i've experienced have not been severe(thanks to steering damper) and i've accelerated out of them easily.

Another good footwell cam vid:

 
Are they realigning when they tap their brakes or are they just making sure they have brakes? I always thought they are making sure they have brakes.

I'm not in the mood to search for the video at the moment but there is a video of Boris Said doing a lap around somewhere and he explains that he always taps the brakes before a certain turn to make sure he has them as it's a dangerous corner.
 
CdnRacer said:
there is a video of Boris Said doing a lap around somewhere and he explains that he always taps the brakes before a certain turn to make sure he has them as it's a dangerous corner.
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I would guess he'd tap them a lot earlier than the guy in the video. If he left it that late there wouldn't be much he could do if the brakes were gone.
 
CdnRacer said:
Are they realigning when they tap their brakes or are they just making sure they have brakes? I always thought they are making sure they have brakes.
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Seems they go together. I've done some more digging on the subject and managed to find a couple of terms for this, brake knock-off and pad knock-back.

This led me to the link below, an excellent read and i really understand it now:

Pad Knockback
A Common Racing Phenomenon
http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/pad-knockback

Another video with a more specific explanation than the previous examples:



Tim can you add this to the list to be implemented at some point in the future? ;)
 
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