I can not disable double paddles changing to Neutral

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JohnW63

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I've assigned a button for neutral. I have set the lines in the Controller JSON to not allow it:

"General Controls":{
"Alternate Neutral Activation":false,
"Alternate Neutral Activation#":"whether to select neutral if shift up & shift down are pressed simultaneously",

Here is the "can't down shift from 1st to N setting:

"Stop Sequential if Neutral Configured":1,
"Stop Sequential if Neutral Configured#":"whether configuring neutral prevents sequential shifts into neutral from 1=1st, 2=reverse, 3=both, or 0=neither",

Yet, I can pull back both paddles and hit neutral every time. I have a Fanatec wheel, and the JSON file I am altering is the one matching the config in rF2. So, I'm not editing the wrong file.

Anyone have a fix for this? If you are down shifting quickly and this happens you can go quickly to reverse and spin out.
 
JohnW63 said:
I've assigned a button for neutral. I have set the lines in the Controller JSON to not allow it:

"General Controls":{
"Alternate Neutral Activation":false,
"Alternate Neutral Activation#":"whether to select neutral if shift up & shift down are pressed simultaneously",

Here is the "can't down shift from 1st to N setting:

"Stop Sequential if Neutral Configured":1,
"Stop Sequential if Neutral Configured#":"whether configuring neutral prevents sequential shifts into neutral from 1=1st, 2=reverse, 3=both, or 0=neither",

Yet, I can pull back both paddles and hit neutral every time. I have a Fanatec wheel, and the JSON file I am altering is the one matching the config in rF2. So, I'm not editing the wrong file.

Anyone have a fix for this? If you are down shifting quickly and this happens you can go quickly to reverse and spin out.
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Why are you hitting both paddles during downshift? I have the same configuration as you and never had this problem, 10+ years of RF2.
 
ebeninca said:
Why are you hitting both paddles during downshift? I have the same configuration as you and never had this problem, 10+ years of RF2.
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I see what he's saying, you can accidentally do it, doesn't happen often, he wants to eliminate it from happening at all.
 
JohnW63 said:
I've assigned a button for neutral. I have set the lines in the Controller JSON to not allow it:

"General Controls":{
"Alternate Neutral Activation":false,
"Alternate Neutral Activation#":"whether to select neutral if shift up & shift down are pressed simultaneously",

Here is the "can't down shift from 1st to N setting:

"Stop Sequential if Neutral Configured":1,
"Stop Sequential if Neutral Configured#":"whether configuring neutral prevents sequential shifts into neutral from 1=1st, 2=reverse, 3=both, or 0=neither",

Yet, I can pull back both paddles and hit neutral every time. I have a Fanatec wheel, and the JSON file I am altering is the one matching the config in rF2. So, I'm not editing the wrong file.

Anyone have a fix for this? If you are down shifting quickly and this happens you can go quickly to reverse and spin out.
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Just to check: you're editing one of the preset files? Or your own custom file?

Are you loading that profile after editing it?

Have you tried editing the controller.json directly instead?
 
I thought paddle gearboxes have this RL ?
Do other GT3 sims have it ?
It's good for sneaking up to your start box ;)
As well also in a spin is faster to select then a button because your fingers are
closer to paddles ;)
Unless you going to drive all race with a thumb on a N button in case of spin.
 
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8Ball said:
I thought paddle gearboxes have this RL ?
Do other GT3 sims have it ?
It's good for sneaking up to your start box ;)
As well also in a spin is faster to select then a button because your fingers are
closer to paddles ;)
Unless you going to drive all race with a thumb on a N button in case of spin.
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I've always assumed it's a game thing for people who are running out of buttons.

I think current GT cars have an automatic electronically controlled clutch (won't stall in a spin or if you come to a stop), while older cars had a clutch pedal still.

It would seem a dangerous feature to allow a double paddle press to put you in neutral, when that could happen accidentally (and if that can happen accidentally, so can an upshift into 1st).

The wheel N button would suffice.
 
Yeah, then when you have a FFB attack, strain your thumb or wrist because of how you using muscles at the time. IE: you lurch into a spin and as you press the button you hit something and have violent FFB reaction.
Where pressing both paddles there is no interaction with the wheel ;)
It would be like mounting the emergency stop button to your wheel lol

I pretty sure some GT3 road cars have this system Audi Ferrari Porsche I assume the rest would.
So why would they include it for "anyone" drives a supercar if it was dangerous ?
That makes absolutely no sense.
 
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ebeninca said:
Why are you hitting both paddles during downshift? I have the same configuration as you and never had this problem, 10+ years of RF2.
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Exactly.

Besides the fact there is more chance you hit wrong steering button ( admit it we all have done it more then once) then press both paddles at once which I have not done like ever.

I think that it's still easier then say using the paddle clutch because your hands are always hovering over the paddles not the clutch ;)

If you don't like the idea and can't disable it then don't have both hands on paddles when shifting.
You should not have your fingers resting against paddles either, that will just wear them more.
 
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8Ball said:
Yeah, then when you have a FFB attack, strain your thumb or wrist because of how you using muscles at the time. IE: you lurch into a spin and as you press the button you hit something and have violent FFB reaction.
Where pressing both paddles there is no interaction with the wheel ;)
It would be like mounting the emergency stop button to your wheel lol

I pretty sure some GT3 road cars have this system Audi Ferrari Porsche I assume the rest would.
So why would they include it for "anyone" drives a supercar if it was dangerous ?
That makes absolutely no sense.
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I don't think they're trying to press any button or paddle when spinning, that's the point.
 
Pretty sure from what I read Audi and Ferrari as well

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3...dles-neutral-but-only-while-being-held-3.html

Is someone saying in the GT3 race cars they disable this ?
It is standard feature of computer controlled electro hydraulic mumbo jumbo
I still digress imho it would be faster pulling both paddles then anything else simply because that is where your hands are !


Lazza said:
I don't think they're trying to press any button or paddle when spinning, that's the point.
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When you spin ? Disengage clutch, don't go rolling backwards with engine in gear.
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Yes not healthy for box. ;)
...and you don't grab neutral at 100mph lol you wait till you slow and see if you must use it, like you may flick around and keep going.
As well hitting neutral or dipping the clutch pedal while moving backwards with a little jinx on the steering wheel can easy spin the car 180 ;) I do that in Historic.

Mind I am not saying ( never said) I do this ( in GT3 etc. ) but I do have GT3 Podium Endurance. I simply let go of the wheel most crashes, you have to be a dill to hang on.

...and for the record open wheel with exposed fronts are the worse for FFB kickback from my experience. After all rF2 FFB is affected by physical dynamics not canned playtime.

P.S. Oh and trust it will be rF2 gets bagged for including real life system. lol ;)
 
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