Released Honda Civic NGTC BTCC Car v1.07 Released

well...this is a superb mod a lot of fun the ffb is at the top but i think there is a physics bug to solve...
those pictures will explain my point of view better than words..
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i tried with intention with the clio and after with the opel astra...to flip in the same way but i did several times the curve without any problems at 85 - 90 km/h...
are the clio and astra to grippy ...or seems the civic be too light ...?

 

I'm guessing here. Now to simulate a car like this which can roll that much the tires sidewalls need to be very hard and stable at least like the ones in real without the tire jumps from the wheel. Maybe the tire generates to much lateral resistannce while its to hard in general. I have no clue about software but if the tire was to soft and would to much flex, there was a little chance to loose it. Furthermore the car wasn't controleable at a certain degree of lift. The tires couldn't follow the line at the edge or sidewall anymore. I didn't tested the car since the colateral damage with me at this forum but this could explain some rough forces on tire patch as well. If not it was just me or my steering wheel.

 

btw, is there any AWD road racing? its the only thing missing, some proper quattro

 

Two videos regarding rollovers and ffb:

 

God had just 7 days, to create the world, but ISI have all the time of world, to create a better world

 

At least ISI are still fixing bugs in their product

 

Best post of January

 

So...

Any explanation for those behaviors?

 

1 is probably an unrealistic grip level reached on rr.

2 is probably due to the car only being driven by the outside wheel. There's quite a few real videos of the same thing. I even get this in my road car.

 

Most probably the first i would say, it's hard for me to imagine such a touring car can flip over, only by grip.
That said, i remember these days in the 90's where i was on a track with my race kart (100ccm, around 25bhp, CRG - Parilla). This track (Wittgenborn btw.) which had really good grip, i often was in danger to flip over in the fast corners, so i had to lean inside a corner. It's also a little hard to believe that this is possible, even such a vehicle with a relative low COG and a pretty wide track.

 

Hi Tim,

Will this example be looked into by the devs?

 

I think people are surprised by how much grip slicks actually have. But I do think this exact example might not be quite right (though braking into a turn with high CG will be what makes it happen as well I think)

 

They read the forum to cover their cars, yeah.

 

That last vid is excellent. I get TS in my road car, even with TC on.

 

Bein a mechanic I can only tell you one t hing, get your car aligned. That only happens after you've had an accident and your allignment is totally out of whack. A normal road should always want to straighten the wheel because of the caster (and to a lesser effect toe).
Or in older cars (with a pitarm system) when the points where the steering system are mounted to the chassis are different from left to right, again because of accidents.

 

I do not have any ISI sorry but will not correct the problem barrels / reversals read?
It's a shame, it's a very good mod.

 

I think it's the keeping the steering lock and the throttle what flip the car. When the car raise the inner side, the front wheel that still touch the ground push to go under the car. I think most of those flip up are from bad response from the driver to the situation. When the car is on two wheels, you have to think to the front wheel as a vector, a vector that is very far from the COG of the car, if you think about it, it's quite easy to induce a severe rotational moment in the car, even at low speed, because the problem is not speed, but torque.

 

I drive the Civic a Little bit scared ..paying attention to not flip the car...but i must say at the same time the ffb it's superb ..the car looks perfect ...it has ton of torque which makes the car a beast! !

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