GTE Cars At SPA Standard Aero or Lemans

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SteveMack

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I am trying to get faster at Spa(and everywhere else), I'm 2:22 driving my heart out.
I need to know if you are finding the Standard Aero package or the Lemans Aero package
is working better, I am not seeing a difference right now.
Some helpful tips would help.
I really stepped up my game figuring out my braking and cornering not just at Spa but all tracks
I have raced on, about a year ago I probably couldn't get under 2:29 at Spa.
Thanks for your help.
Steve
 
Marcel Offermans said:
The previous season at VEC had a race at Spa with GTE cars. You can see the results here: https://simracing.club/ResultsSystem/vec/s15/d1r2.html

Pole time was a 02:12.436 for the GTE class. That is with the standard package as VEC only uses the Le Mans aero package at Le Mans.
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Funny thing is I see the videos online with those times and I can't see where I am losing 10 seconds, the AI run at 2:21, I am going to race online right now and see how it goes:D
 
SteveMack said:
Funny thing is I see the videos online with those times and I can't see where I am losing 10 seconds, the AI run at 2:21, I am going to race online right now and see how it goes:D
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The answer is everywhere, you're losing time everywhere. A decent lap, one not really fast should be easily 2:16 in a GTE. Just keep practicing and try to find a good setup.
I have been in your situation in the past, I felt really stupid when I wasn't able of going under 2:20 in a gt3, then I felt bad for not going under 2:17 and know I can get 2:14 with ease.
 
SteveMack said:
Ah, I had thought that lemans was hi speed low down force, I am wrong correct?
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You're right, but it only works in Le Mans. In the main straight at Le Mans you can reach 300 km/h however in Paul Ricard at Mistral straight (the version without the chicane) the top speed is about 275 km/h wether is the le mans package or the standard one, same in other tracks like Daytona.
 
JEmilio said:
The answer is everywhere, you're losing time everywhere. A decent lap, one not really fast should be easily 2:16 in a GTE. Just keep practicing and try to find a good setup.
I have been in your situation in the past, I felt really stupid when I wasn't able of going under 2:20 in a gt3, then I felt bad for not going under 2:17 and know I can get 2:14 with ease.
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Let me ask you this, can I try your setup, I say that because I am at 2:21 with the aston martin I have worked the setup alot, I also tried the Ferrari, I didn't do alot to the setup but didn't get under 2:24, I have tried all the gte cars and I am staying at 2:23, 2:24. I have looked for setups and haven't found anything, even on this site in the posted setups. I need a setup to compare to see if there is something that I am missing because I am driving on the edge and balls to the wall and still can't even pick up 5 seconds, let alone 10, I was actually trying to tweak my accelerator sensitivity to see if that would help, it didn't.
Thanks for any help.
 
I was talking about gt3 not gte, mate. I can give you my setup for the Aston gt3 because I don't have any setup for gte's at the moment.
Another thing I forgot to mention is to make sure you select "saturated rubber" in the session settings page which will give you the most grip.
However keep in mind that a setup doesn't make miracles by itself so you have to keep practicing and learning. My recommendation is to read Speed secrets by Ross Bentley, that book is the bible for us. Additionally reading a book about car dynamics will also help a lot (sorry, I'm a library rat).
 
JEmilio said:
I was talking about gt3 not gte, mate. I can give you my setup for the Aston gt3 because I don't have any setup for gte's at the moment.
Another thing I forgot to mention is to make sure you select "saturated rubber" in the session settings page which will give you the most grip.
However keep in mind that a setup doesn't make miracles by itself so you have to keep practicing and learning. My recommendation is to read Speed secrets by Ross Bentley, that book is the bible for us. Additionally reading a book about car dynamics will also help a lot (sorry, I'm a library rat).
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Ok, thanks for replying, yeah I will try the gt3 setup you have to see if I can get anywhere with it, I have also done alot of research on driving and have come a long way with it, I will check on that book also.
Thank you
Steve
 
JEmilio said:
Here is, change the extension to svm. Rename the file from "test 05.txt" to "test 05.svm".
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Thanks for doing this, I'm going to try it now, I tried the gt3 again before you uploaded this and I was still at 2:24, so hopefully a proven setup will tell me what the issue is, I will let you know.
Thanks Again,
Steve
 
I drove the porsche a bit in race control, i dont know about setups but you can try it anyway if you want. 2:16 average race pace. Low 2:14 for quali. Havent tried the other cars but the Porsche feels pretty solid to drive maybe give it a shot if you havent.
 

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JEmilio said:
Here is, change the extension to svm. Rename the file from "test 05.txt" to "test 05.svm".
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The setup did help my aston martin gt3, I never had the front bar up to 6,felt like I driving a boat before. However I am still slow and I have figured what my problem is, I am going to call it "lazy feet" and being "too careful", another fellow put up a gte porsche setup and I took it out, and being fed up I decided to just go crazy and I found the driving style needed, I only got to 2:20 but I got the feeling now, I see how the other drivers were racing online and I thought they were " out of control ", I didn't want to drive like that, turns out, that's the way to do it.
I do thank you for your help, I'm going to try that setup again tomorrow with the new driving style and see what happens.
Thanks
Steve
 
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I drove the porsche a bit in race control, i dont know about setups but you can try it anyway if you want. 2:16 average race pace. Low 2:14 for quali. Havent tried the other cars but the Porsche feels pretty solid to drive maybe give it a shot if you havent.
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Ok, I tried it. Got to 2:20 trying a new driving style. Your right about being solid, it drives good. I think the more I apply this new driving style I can knock off that 4 to 6 seconds.
Thanks
Steve
 
SteveMack said:
Ok, I tried it. Got to 2:20 trying a new driving style. Your right about being solid, it drives good. I think the more I apply this new driving style I can knock off that 4 to 6 seconds.
Thanks
Steve
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Keep plugging away at it, at least its fun to drive either way :p Obviously im nowhere near the fastest either, that pole time marcel posted is near 2 seconds quicker than me, and JEmilio is driving a GT3 faster there than me in a GTE!
 
SteveMack said:
The setup did help my aston martin gt3, I never had the front bar up to 6,felt like I driving a boat before. However I am still slow and I have figured what my problem is, I am going to call it "lazy feet" and being "too careful", another fellow put up a gte porsche setup and I took it out, and being fed up I decided to just go crazy and I found the driving style needed, I only got to 2:20 but I got the feeling now, I see how the other drivers were racing online and I thought they were " out of control ", I didn't want to drive like that, turns out, that's the way to do it.
I do thank you for your help, I'm going to try that setup again tomorrow with the new driving style and see what happens.
Thanks
Steve
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Years ago, in rFactor 1, the 14 Years old Son of one of our Community Members was always faster than the most of us "old" Men.
After some Time, we figured out, that his Advantage was, that he, of course, has never driven a real Car.
He didn't thought about Things like "when i accelerate to soon and too much at the Corner Exit, i will loose my Rear".
He just drove it completely unencumbered. :)
 
During the 2000's, it was fairly common for teams to use their Le Mans aero package at Spa. The idea was to get a 6hr test session in before the 24hrs. But teams began using the normal aero package and were going faster than those still using the LM low drag. Spa's two high speed sections just weren't long enough to take advantage of the lower downforce settings.
When S397 released the Le Sarthe laser scanned circuit, they included Le Mans only aero for the LMP2 cars.(don't remember if this was extended to the GTE cars as well)
 
SteveMack said:
The setup did help my aston martin gt3, I never had the front bar up to 6,felt like I driving a boat before. However I am still slow and I have figured what my problem is, I am going to call it "lazy feet" and being "too careful", another fellow put up a gte porsche setup and I took it out, and being fed up I decided to just go crazy and I found the driving style needed, I only got to 2:20 but I got the feeling now, I see how the other drivers were racing online and I thought they were " out of control ", I didn't want to drive like that, turns out, that's the way to do it.
I do thank you for your help, I'm going to try that setup again tomorrow with the new driving style and see what happens.
Thanks
Steve
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I'm happy you realized it. Yes, going faster in a car means putting it on the edge of traction which translates to being almost out of control but still keep the car within the track limits.
 
Hi mate, to clarify all GTE's use Le Mans package only in that track, you can see that in the file <TrackConfigs.ini> in <car-upgrades.mas>. However by comparison I've managed to make an update for the Aston to use the Le Mans package in Daytona. I can share it if you're interested.
 
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