Grip

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by slo, May 22, 2013.

  1. JGraf

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    an example, nissan gt-r
    with minimum 17lb psi, and all tires center temps read over inflated, clearly something isn't right.
     
  2. Noel Hibbard

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    My point is people are for ever coming into the sim industry from real cars complaining that the grip levels are way too low when really it is that they are used to "feeling" the grip. Then you end up with thread with one person insulting another back and forth for months. People saying stuff like, "I race in real life and I can assure you cars have more grip" when they are actually going the exact same speeds in the same turns.

    I haven't noticed a lack of detail in the rF2 FFB unless my frame rate is really bad or unstable. It is as if there is a lag somewhere and out of nowhere it snaps. When I loaded 218 I did a fresh reload and like an idiot I didn't put my old PLR file aside. After that my frame rate became very unstable. I still haven't managed to get that fully connected feel back that I had before reloading. It really is time for me to make the switch back to Nvidia. This HD5770 needs to be retired. :)
     
  3. MarcG

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    Sim Racers are just failed Real Life Racers, they have to find something to moan about...and it's never their own driving!
     
  4. FONismo

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    Ok and i agree btw there is no need for childish rants and behaviour, really there isn't . And yes you do hear it so much regarding grip and real life. It's a shame i think that threads always seem to end in name calling but that's life, i think the majority in here keep it civil and mature. Couple of bad apples, that's all.

    FPS does certainly effect rF2. But i run a GTX690 and average around 150fps, this is not an issue my end. It really is only the slow stuff for me where i notice that lack of detail in these cars.
     
  5. F2Chump

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    LOLOLOL, calling Nismo a noob.
     
  6. speed1

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    Yes i know and i'm with you on this mate.
     
  7. FONismo

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    Don't give this guy the attention he craves, best thing is the ignore function as said previously. I think the majority know how the guy works round here from last time. Just move on and discuss with people that can actually have a mature conversation. Argueing over stuff like this is pathetic.
     
  8. MarcG

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    so you fuel the fire by replying with that....could've used a PM....and yes I see the irony ;)
     
  9. CdnRacer

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    +1
     
  10. FONismo

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    Yep, i agree i should of done
     
  11. CdnRacer

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    He doesn't get the public attention he craves that way. ;)
     
  12. Miro

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    If this issue is still present then why giving examples for tire pressure in the setup options (i think skippy)
    And how is it possible that the skippy feels that good than. On the other hand it would explain the lack of feel whilst braking.
    After the update to the 1.4x version the FFB improved massively in slow speed corners and whilst accelerating out of slow speed turns as also on the limit IMO.

    If this "issue" is still present then it makes absolutely no sense to comment on the car behavior.
    It must be a placebo then but the last time as I made a setup for the Vette I thought the tire pressure had deffo an impact on the car.
     
  13. baked bean

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    Well pack it in then simple. I bet if we where all in the same room it wouldn't of been like this, we'd show more respect for each others OPINIONS being face to face, and then we'd say "**** this lets race" . For a bunch of lads who sheer the same love for sim racing you would think we could get along. Its a shame a few egos ruin it.
     
  14. FONismo

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    This is what has been said from the start, any setup changes do not effect the cars. Go and fire up AC and adjust tyre pressures, go above 30 all tyres, instantly the FFB tightens up, car becomes ultra direct and twitchy and far more alive, like it's on stilts, if you can master the lairy rear like that, you will be really fast. Lower the pressures the car becomes far more composed and intuitive.

    Both ways though, you can always feel the car in the slow stuff, same goes with GSC.
     
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  15. FONismo

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    Fair enough i apologise if i have offended you. I stick by my opinions though and will carry on discussing this with others that can discuss in a decent mature manner.

    Maybe one day when rF2 has matured with better content i will race you guys and beat you :cool:
     
  16. baked bean

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    Like wise Fonismo, i didnt want to upset no one its not my intention and im sorry too if i did.


    I sincerely look forward to this day, although you would probably beat me today :)
     
  17. Miro

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    True that, but however I still can't agree that there is no FFB whatsoever in slow conditions. No FFB is like when you lock up and the car just goes on and it's deffo different whilst racing.

    The last two/three turns on Croft were a good indicator for that behaviour and after the update to the 1.4x version that deffo improved. You can easily power out the Vette out of the last corner with nice feedback but again when there is enough rubbear on track.
    But then again turn two in Mid Ohio is very little feedback doesn't matter the rubber on track. I am not so sure what to think about that, altering the tire pressure/contact patch will improve the behaviour in some conditions but then again make it worse in others.

    It seems now to be perfect just for one condition without options to alter the car behaviour drastically to the own or needed preferences.
     
  18. CdnRacer

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    What?!!!! Now you're talking nonsense. Clearly you're trolling at this point since that statement is complete and 100% b.s.
     
  19. Esteve Rueda

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    Sorry if I lost something in the way... but what? something I like of rFactor 2 is how predicable is to setup a car, I learned to setup a car now with rFactor 2! :eek:

    I need only few laps and I can begin to do a base setup, I don't know how this works in AC, but in rFactor 2 you can feel in FFB the changes in front suspension and downforce, especially downforce. Try different downforce configurations in FR3.5 and test yourself. As I said I don't know how much you feel comparing to AC, but at least I feel really well setup changes.
     
  20. Rony1984

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    setup changes also bring about immense changes to car behaviour and feeling imo. For the feeling especially the caster/camber do wonders
     

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