Graphics card?

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  1. larry24

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    So I am going to buy a new card, I just would like to have a little input on this. I am wondering which one the 1080ti 11gb,or the 2070 8gb? The one thing that make me debate this is video memory the 11gb versus 8gb. I have a AMD fx 6300 six core processor 4.42 ghz, I am not rich so this card is going to have to last me for a while, I appreciate any help on this thanks
     
  2. stonec

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    11 GB or 8 GB will not make a practical difference in sim racing. VRAM is only useful if the game is built to take advantage of it, i.e. uses very large textures and buffers those into GPU RAM. In sim racing basically every title works by loading the entire track into VRAM at once, which is different from open world games. Due to this, sim titles limit their track textures to not exceed VRAM amount of the average GPU. There is no reason why any sim title would consume more than 8 GB in near future, most tracks today stay under 4 GB even with lots of AI cars.

    The bigger problem you will encounter is that AMD FX chipsets only support PCI-E 2.0, which will cause a performance bottleneck in rF2, especially with a card as powerful as the 2070 or 1080 Ti.
     
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  3. patchedupdemon

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    Regarding the card, 1080ti all the way, the 20series cards are a rip off, and no title even in the near future will be taking advantage of ray tracing

    But as stonec has pointed out, pcie 2.0 will bottleneck you
     
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    exactly what Stonec said
    old system with new gpu=bottleneck usually for the gpu
     
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    1080ti
     
  6. larry24

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    So what about this motherboard and a i7-8700 coffee lake 6 - core 3.2ghz turbo 4.6ghz? I am willing to spend the money if it will give me good performance. I run triple screen and play nascar mostly with 35 ai,and thanks to all for the help and info.
     

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    @larry24 No, that motherboard doesn't support 8th gen Intel. You need a 300 series chipset.

    Try the various PC building sites (pcpartpicker, logical increments, etc) and see what other people are using together, if you're not sure.

    *I should say your other option is to pick up a 7th or 6th gen CPU and a compatible motherboard. rF2 on screens (not VR) won't gain much with extra cores, it's more about what each thread can do, and any of those recent CPUs will do a good job.
     
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  8. larry24

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    What about this one?
     

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    Z390 is to Intel® Socket 1151 for 8th Generation Core™ Processors (i7 8700k, i7 8600k etc) and it is good choice to gaming.
     
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    @larry24 That's what I have, works well :D
     
  11. Fanapryde

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    I made the jump from gtx 980ti to GTX 1080ti and it is well worth it (though my MB seems to be a bit of a bottleneck now).
    My PC shop told me choosing the 20 series made no sense right now (or even in the near future)
     
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    I recently upgraded to the 2080Ti after running triples on a 1070 (non-Ti) since they came out. I was progressively having to turn more and more down in the 1070 as rf2 evolved and have just started racing with power-hungry Rift VR too.

    I have to agree that the 2080 series does not represent good value just now - my 2080Ti probably cost twice as much as a 1080Ti but currently only manages maybe a 30% uplift in performance?

    Anyway, VR will suck you dry of performance, so it still makes sense to me.

    However, my mobo is an 1150 PGA device running an i7-4770K. The CPU has never broken a sweat running rf2 and was probably overkill when I bought it some years ago (other than I was also doing photo editing....). Even VR doesn’t stretch it now.

    So what would I do if my rig fritzed tomorrow? Probably go for a 1080Ti with a relatively modest Intel CPU. And probably not replace the triples (G-sync) as despite its limitations, VR is a whole better ballgame than triples with TrackIR head tracking...
     
  13. mesfigas

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    nvidia is a steal
    just this
    they claim that they did a 10 years research and they finally gave it to gamers.
    lol at them and their marketing tricks.
     
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    You need to upgrade your MB asap as you are not getting the most out of the 2080ti. Your MB will be a huge bottleneck for that gfx card. o_O
     
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    doh! My mistake his MB should support PCIe 3.0.
     
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    I believe PCIe 2.0 won't be a bottleneck for single card. Keep in mind that 16x PCIe 2.0 is equivalent to 8x PCIe 3.0. 8x PCIe 3.0 is what each card usually gets when there are two cards in SLI.
     
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    But wouldn't his cpu (4770k) bottleneck the gpu?
    Asking because i have a 4770 and wonder if i should do a complete new build or still could.do with only a gpu update.
     
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    Generally not, at least at high resolution an details. Most games don't have such complicated physics calculations that decent CPU would bottleneck.
     
  20. Lazza

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    Well, he did say M/B rather than CPU, plus I was only asking because I was curious (not suggesting he was wrong).

    But on the CPU, for screens it won't make much difference, your 4770 will do a decent job with rF2 as it only heavily utilises 2 cores anyway and your single thread speed is pretty good. Lots of AI might have some effect, but overclocking (where possible) could still make it ok. VR is more demanding, from what I've seen reported I think more modern ones with higher clockspeeds and more cores will handle it better.
     
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