Grand Prix 1937

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  1. ozpata

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    I don't think that Ben, who was who started the project and was leading it, would have an issue as long the right credits are given

    from my part if there is anything that I can do, let me know where do I have to go in case that you have something setup for keeping information or whatever, I am trying to help out in a few mods, mostly classic grand prix racing, but most is not for this platform yet
     
  2. ozpata

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    Ben just wrote me back, and says that as long that credits are given to the team and members of Team Vintage, he will be ok with that
     
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  3. LeStrat

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    Excellent news!

    Once again thank you very much.
     
  4. Eddy

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    Go for it leStrat :)
     
  5. tjc

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    Yes! Sounds good.

    I already can`t wait. :)
     
  6. LeStrat

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    I will share what I currently have.

    Please bear in mind this is a very early conversion stage. (Remember that for Porsche 917k it took more than 2 years since the first test version we released, to the current 0.75 version :) )

    Still only 3 out of 5 cars have been converted.

    I would kindly ask you to review the cars and share not only your impressions but also every flaw you may find. I already have several in the list of future corrections.

    Please find below the download link for version 0.1:
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzK9md-AyguTYm44VmpIcWlrTm8

    If anyone wants to give a helping hand, I will gladly share the devmode files with him.
     
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  7. tjc

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    Thanks LeStrat. I`ll take a look and report anything I find. :)
     
  8. Mauro

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    very fast test
    on 2 wheels at Kyalami :)
     
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  9. Navigator

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    "You need permission"..........

    This is the message I get when trying top download.
     
  10. ozpata

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    a thing or two to remember, this cars require a little bit of an open mind in the driving, while comparing with even machines from the 50s or 60s
    the braking and tyre technology was at best, fairly inadequate to cope with the power of the cars, so you have to allow yourself some distance and work your way from that, they were capable of high speeds but slowing them down was a bit tricky
     
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  11. osellacz

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    Hi everyone,
    today I received email from jess about permission to convert our 1937 mod over to rf2.
    I had trouble delivering the email over mailservers so I'll post here, to everyone to see publicly anyway.
    I'd be more than happy to see the mod converted, although I was not the main person who spent the most work - that was Big Ben who made of the incredible 3d models. I'm sure all of us would agree with the conversion as long as credits are given.
    Cheers!
     
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  12. LeStrat

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    I can just say thank you to all the creators of this piece of art.

    I will do my best to make it shine in rF2.

    @Mauro, it did happen to me too, but only in Alfa Romeo. I will look into it.
     
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  13. Rantam

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    Great news! I always loved this rF1 mod :)

    Kindest regards
     
  14. tjc

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    Ahem! "cough" cough"

    :D
     
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  15. PLAYLIFE

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    Wow, I'm surprised to see how much momentum this has gained in such a short amount of time. I'm happy to see this great piece of work getting a new lease of life.

    If there's anything I can do to help, I'd be more than willing, just PM me. Keep in mind I'm not a mod maker in terms of 3D models, sounds etc., but I am an engineer and dabble in the physics with some knowledge of the way in which rF2 works. I have an extensive library with many books on pre-WWII racing so I'm sure I have some information that can help.
     
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    Hello my friends. I'm long time lurker and this is my first post. I just wanted to report that I saw this behavior several times in the Auto Union as well. Additionally, there is strange sound at low revs off throttle in Auto Union. Many thanks for your efforts.
     
  17. Seven Smiles

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    So? :)
     
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  18. ozpata

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    here are some average speeds for the auto union 1937

    Spa : Hasse 104.07 mph/ 167.5 kph
    Donington : Rosemeyer 82.85 mph/133.3 kph
    Nurburgring : Rosemeyer 81.80 mph/131.6 kph "1936"
    Monza : Rosemeyer 84.1 mph/135.3 kph "1936"

    here are some comments about the Au

    at Donington 1937 : the cars were mainly driven by shorts stabs at the gas not using full power most of the time, the throttle response was so good that the short blips of power will make the cars constantly slide from the rear, the acceleration was most of the time hard, making the rear wheels getting big rings of smoke.
    the AU team brought to England ten tons of tires and some 2 1/2 tons of inner tubes, they were eating tires at a big rate , most of the practice times, the tyres will only last 12 laps before they will show the white warning lines on the canvas, the race was for 80 laps.


    Stuck on driving the AU
    Most of the time , I will restrain to use four gears of the five available, the throttle response is very direct and the car responds almost instantly in a very aggressive manner, the gearbox was very good , don't need to double declutch, but you need to be always aware that can get lost finding a gear.
    the car doesn't feel heavy at all, but the problem is to keep the car straight, it slides a lot and the power is far more than the tires can handle, as for a driving position, the car doesn't have power steering and the races were long, so you have to be almost on top of it , otherwise you can't turn them, the steering is very heavy, on tight corners , you have to throw the car on oversteer and slide it to get around, by turning, you will never make it
     
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  19. ozpata

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    the AU car was basically 4 to 5% faster than the Alfa Romeo during the 37 season
    the Mercedes was most of the time 2 miles per hour faster than the AU in every circuit
    the ERA C type was about 6 mph slower than the Alfa Romeo


    Tyres

    this is a comparison of tyre life and is relation to average speeds done at the Nurburgring AU

    average speed 72 1/2 mph tyre mileage 620
    average speed 75 mph tyre mileage 360
    average speed 77 1/2 mph tyre mileage 220
    average speed 80 mph tyre mileage 175
     
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  20. PLAYLIFE

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    Some more data.

    Mercedes W125

    @5,800rpm
    Gear ratios: 8.0 - 5.15 - 4.45 - 3.52

    Circuit - 1st gear - 2nd gear - 3rd gear - 4th gear
    Monza - 73 mph - 114mph - 132 mph - 166 mph

    @5,800rpm
    Gear ratios: 9.55 - 6.15 - 5.95 - 4.7

    Circuit - 1st gear - 2nd gear - 3rd gear - 4th gear
    Monaco - 60 mph - 93.5mph - 96 mph - 122 mph
     

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