Fixing bad CSL Elite pedals

[Emery]

I have the old Fanatec CSL Elite pedals with the potentiometers on clutch and throttle, but a load cell brake. The load cell brake is fine. Naturally the pots were going bad and they're too much trouble to clean. First the clutch and then the throttle, both spiking/dropping so much they were unusable.

Apart from the potentiometers, I've really liked these pedals. They have nice large pads on the pedals and their stiffness is in the right range for me. Not to mention, at the time, the price was moderate.

A little internet digging gave me hope to replace the pots with Hall effect sensors and magnets rather than buying a replacement set of pedals. Turns out it is pretty easy if you've got a little experience soldering and know someone with a 3D printer. The replacement I chose also eliminates the plastic gears that fail due to grit chewing them up, so this upgrade should last a long time. Presumably the CSL Elite v2 pedals which come with Hall effect sensors still have the plastic gears?

Step by step DIY guide for replacing CSL Elite pedal throttle/clutch potentiometers with hall sensors (20 pictures, instructions, links to required materials) : r/Fanatec

 

[Emery]

Been really enjoying the Hall effect sensors except the instructions say the extra magnets lock the one used by the sensor into place. Well that only lasted a week before my throttle magnet shifted during a race. Realigned the magnet and applied duct tape... hopefully that is enough to keep the magnets aligned.

 

[Louis]

Didnt understand nothing. This could help me with clubsport V3 pedals?

 

[Louis]

When he start using the multimeter, my mind goes off...

 

[Emery]

This could help me with clubsport V3 pedals?

No, because those already have Hall effect sensors.

 

[Louis]

No, because those already have Hall effect sensors.

Really? Never saw these magnets. I thought the How much pedal pressure was apllied came from How much some stuck behind him enter in another piece.
My new CSL pedals altough, doesnt have these "sticks" behind pedals.
I deduced that the new ones have this, but the old ones don't. My Clubsport v3 is over eight years old.

 

[Emery]

Really? Never saw these magnets. I thought the How much pedal pressure was apllied came from How much some stuck behind him enter in another piece.
My new CSL pedals altough, doesnt have these "sticks" behind pedals.
I deduced that the new ones have this, but the old ones don't. My Clubsport v3 is over eight years old.

Pedal pressure using a load cell is just on the brake pedal. The other two pedals are Hall effect.

Clubsport V3 pedals are different than CSL Elite pedals.
These are the Clubsport V3:

These are the CSL Elite:

 

[Louis]

Hmm, thank you. The CSL elite is an upgrade from clubsport v3?
Looks nice and clean.

 

[Emery]

Hmm, thank you. The CSL elite is an upgrade from clubsport v3?

CSL Elite were entry-level while the Clubsport V3 were top-of-the-line.

 

[Johnny Speed]

I have a question.
I have a set of CSR pedals with load cell on the brake pedal that I have not used yet. I currently use non-load cell brake pedal Fanatec CSR

Can I simply plug in my new set of pedals with load cell and it will work, or do I need to update drivers and things on the computer?

 

[Emery]

I have a question.
I have a set of CSR pedals with load cell on the brake pedal that I have not used yet. I currently use non-load cell brake pedal Fanatec CSR

Can I simply plug in my new set of pedals with load cell and it will work, or do I need to update drivers and things on the computer?

I certainly don't know. Best check Fanatec's web site.

 

[8Ball]

Realigned the magnet and applied duct tape... hopefully that is enough to keep the magnets aligned. Super glue no good E ?

Super glue no good E ?

Can I simply plug in my new set of pedals with load cell and it will work, or do I need to update drivers and things on the computer?

I think yes mate.
Load cell probably requires a firmware update
Check pedal movement in Fanatec app
Re - install app / driver
Run firmware check

Best check though is 0-100% pedal travel in all sims rather then the software which has a fixed scale and doesn't show say 99%
rF2 is the best for this for me.
If pedal is off in rF2 re calibrate 0% and 100%

 

[Johnny Speed]

Super glue no good E ?


I think yes mate.
Load cell probably requires a firmware update
Check pedal movement in Fanatec app
Re - install app / driver
Run firmware check

Best check though is 0-100% pedal travel in all sims rather then the software which has a fixed scale and doesn't show say 99%
rF2 is the best for this for me.
If pedal is off in rF2 re calibrate 0% and 100%

Well then I will just leave things as they are until necessary. If it ain't broke don't fix it

 

[Emery]

Super glue no good E ?

LOL Probably is, but the last time I used some, I glued more than intended...

 

[8Ball]

LOL Probably is, but the last time I used some, I glued more than intended...

I fixed DSD where a bit broke off ( where I had carefully LOL drilled 2 holes to hang it ) with superglue.
Amazed that it held full weight.

Yes I glued my fingers Warning label: " Keep away from children" lol

You need those little once only single shot tubes
https://www.bunnings.com.au/selleys-5-x-1ml-super-glue-single-shot_p1210323
If it's Selleys it works ! lol

 

[8Ball]

Well then I will just leave things as they are until necessary. If it ain't broke don't fix it

I would check out with others about the firmware just in case it help brake feel.

Don't believe Google and rush in, find some users.

Yes, updating the firmware for the Fanatec CSL Load Cell kit can improve the brake feel and, more importantly, the consistency and smoothness of the input. Users have reported that firmware updates have resolved issues where the Brake Force (BRF) settings would reset, and some have noted that it makes the overall braking experience feel smoother.

 

[Johnny Speed]

I would check out with others about the firmware just in case it help brake feel.

Don't believe Google and rush in, find some users.

I will have to check, but I don't think there are any firmware updates for my Wheel/Pedals. Fanatec CSR Forza Edition (for PC, Xbox 360 and Playstation 3). Bought it new many years ago, (back when Race07 was THE GAME lol) and have since purchased a spare wheel and pedal set. Just to have a backup unit. Same wheel and pedals, but the brake pedal on my "spare" is a load cell.

 

[8Ball]

Sorry we may be talking about different things.

https://forum.fanatec.com/topic/8583-csl-load-cell-kit-firmware/

Apparently to update firmware they need to be in USB to tower not the wheel.

 

[Louis]

CSL Elite were entry-level while the Clubsport V3 were top-of-the-line.

Now i think i have to sell both clubsport and de csl pedals that came off with a bundle i bought recently from Fanatec.
Any users here of these pedals to give me a feedback?
Its Simjack but i think i can use with simsonn usb Control box (ask to the seller but didnt get answer back yet.
These New pedal look amazing and with good material quality. Hope i didnt screw up buying them.

 

[Lazza]

Now i think i have to sell both clubsport and de csl pedals that came off with a bundle i bought recently from Fanatec.
Any users here of these pedals to give me a feedback?
Its Simjack but i think i can use with simsonn usb Control box (ask to the seller but didnt get answer back yet.
These New pedal look amazing and with good material quality. Hope i didnt screw up buying them.

They're a HE clone with some lower quality components. Will work fine, don't know about the control box though. (I mean, I literally don't know; I don't mean I think it's an issue)