[WIP] EnduranceRacingX PX by URD Pre-order with beta access available!

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  1. Will Mazeo

    Will Mazeo Registered

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    I follow these series so I know the history. Still this has nothing to do with the topic of pace.
    Pre 2016 regs = GTE/GT3 too close
    Pos 2016 regs = ACO makes GTE faster due to some series putting both classes together (Viper GTE program canceled in 2014)

    I say the S397 GT3 was too fast due to competition some time ago at Silverstone with aliens going really fast there, ofc IRL this could happen with SGT tires tho. But who knows what they'll do to fix this, if they dont touch the GTE class anymore this means GT3 will be slowed down
     
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  2. Chris Lesperance

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    I don't think URD checks here very often, but I don't have Twitter (where they seem most active). So I'll give this a shot.

    This is a very old preview. I was wondering if the raw files for these are still around? If they are I was wondering if they could be uploaded where someone might be able to get it in game? There is a Morgan that never made an rF2 conversion that is dated. This model looks great and would fill in a few empty spaces.

    https://www.virtualr.net/endurance-racing-x-new-prototype-previews-3
     
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  3. davehenrie

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    The model on the right appears to be the Acura ARX 01....d? About the time Graff raced it as a P1 I think. (the shark fin wasn't there in P2 days was it?) URD also, at some point, displayed an early model of the Toyota 030...I'd be happy to see that just mounted on Porsche 919 physics.
    ok :) actually looked them up. 2012 ALMS Acura ARX03-C and the Morgan(Oak/Pescarolo) LMP2 cars.
     
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  4. rubennaatje

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    There was also a bykolles model. Maybe enduracers would like more p2 models?
     
  5. Chris Lesperance

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    I don't recall the ByKolles. There was the 2016 Audi and Toyota also in development that never got released.

    I can maybe get the models in game. They might not be great, but they might be good for grid fillers. I have a converted version of the HPD for personal use. It was the model that has been converted to every other game. But I have been looking for a better version of the Morgan for a while, and nothing has popped up. That model should fill the grid of my LM16 grid.

    It should be fairly easy to get get it working with the Enduracers mod. Their P2 physics are pretty standard. That is the one thing I cannot do. We'll see I guess.
     
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  6. Bostrom

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    Very interesting Chris ! ! !
    If you could bring the models into the game, that would be really great. :)
     
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  7. Bjørn

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    I wanted to the do a P2 expansion pack... But the feel of the URD P2's was underwhelming... The Feedback - not the driving, but the FFB was non-existant, so it never materialized... HPD, tonnes of Lolas, Courage etc...
     
  8. Chris Lesperance

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    That's why I was planning on using the Enduracers physics. Even though they are pretty much spec across their P2 class, it's fun and they are all pretty balanced with each other. If anything, it provides a great baseline.
     
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  9. McFlex

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    I assume you asked enduracers for permission to use their physics?;)

    I don‘t think they would like to see their physics ripped or used by someone else
     
  10. Bostrom

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    Are now also single numbers protected by copyright ? :rolleyes:
    (Physics consists of individual numerical values.)

    @McFlex

    By the way, I had the question mark protected. So please ask me next time you use it. OK ? ;)

    Nice new time. :)
     
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  11. McFlex

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    So then ripping 3D content would be also ok. Just a bunch of coordinates of vertices.
    *irony off

    Seems you have no clue about modding and the ethics of it:rolleyes: o_O
     
  12. Bostrom

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    @McFlex

    Mission accomplished ......... you dare not use the question mark anymore. ;)
     
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  13. Filip

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    Single numbers are not protected per se, but their sequence/relation/grouping is.
    So you are not allowed to use them in such way.
     
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  14. Rogger

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    small tip.... think first (do research) and then write. ;)
     
  15. Flaux

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    You could ask MaD_King from Gentlemen Racers. Maybe he even helps creating the physics based on the work they did on the Endu-Mod...
     
  16. Will Mazeo

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    ya all are so dramatic... what about waiting to see if he got permission first before going all oscar winning performance lol
     
  17. vivemclaren

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    URD released a new payware car on AC and no working on this very old mod (and the promised cars)? URD took the people who bought it for idiots....
     
  18. rubennaatje

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    They don't have anyone who can do the physics for them and have been searching for someone for ages afaik
     
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    Hold on mate. Despite that I have generaly huge respect for Alless and what he has done for rF2 as he gave it much needed popular content (sometimes even for free or in other mods), I think that this whole PX thing leaves a bit of a sour taste. And in this regard I have a different opinion about URD as a company than about Alless even if it is difficult to differentiate.

    First of all, if you are selling a product as preorder and give a list in the first page and show WIP images for several years, there should be something delivered at one point. And if your company - and this is what URD essecntally is - lacks important manpower you need to to do everything possible to fullfill your promisses even if it means working for free at one point, learning how to do it on your own, or maybe even tell your AC physics guy to learn how to port a car into rF2. Reach out to the guys in this forum. This are just a few examples that come to my mind and I can't imagine that there is noone around to help them. My suspission is that money is the whole problem here and nothing else. Another big issues I see is that there are new products by URD released, even for rF2 while older promissed content gets put on the side, because it wasn't financially viable. That's a big punch in the face of your customers if you ask me. And should I mention that there are still updates to older cars missing, like proper PBR shaders and rain features that were shown ages ago? This has nothing to do with not-having-anyone-for-physics. Bring the Moyoda with balanced WIP physics, similar to the Porsche and people will survive it.

    And the last but not least argument why this is all pretty sad: in the past we had hundreds of hundreds of pages about payware mods and that you can't expect people to work for free with the quality expected in this day and age. But now we have the problem that people get payed for their work, but they still don't deliver what was promissed. That other people get this done for their free mods should tell you, that it is possible and I still hope for the URD guys and Alless, that they can get everything resolved and the train back on the rails. Because this is all hurting them and their reputation. My two cents ... ;)
     
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  20. zxd1997

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    if just borrow and for personal private use and never public release, will this be ok? Just out of curious, both 3d and physic.
    Do physic from scratch maybe too hard for rF2 so that there's no so much mods there. anyway that's another point and not relate to this situation
    oh and another point, if modders look into other mod how things are done and learn form other mods or use some of properties form that, is it a kind of 'ripping'?
     

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