[WIP] EnduranceRacingX PX by URD Pre-order with beta access available!

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  1. peevee

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    Blah blah blah!

    In answer to your words ofself pity:

    • Doing another car is completly different when other people are involved NOT needed for rF2 ingame/fixing work! Now WTF does that mean?
    • And i have explained this so many times by now that is boring by now allready. Good! So it is not only me, many people appear frustrated by your snail paced productivity.
    • We have and will allways deliver our products but sometimes we simply dont take into accounts that there are things coming in our way that need bit more work Why is that my problem?
    • I dont want to hear a single time anymore that Say what??? You having a laugh?
    • We actually do FREE content for you Not me dude. I only have your payware stuff and don't care for your free stuff
    • That you are going to whine at the end Not likely because I am a beer guy...
    • Especially when some cars dont have a single issue with something else beeing late and i have sayed this soo many times. What exactly does that mean?
    • We would have not work on other projects if they would affect other projects! Hard to believe since a you have delivered two or three new 'free' products to my knowledge while PX is unfinished, with EGT and T5 appear to be stagnant
    • We have never forced you for anything and on top of that for beeing late or whatever from our side we have added more content to that package! You need to explain this properly coz I don't get it...
    • Wich isnt bad i guess for what you get at the end or is it? From my perspective as a buyer I give this example to you the seller: I bought a one litre bottle of beer. I opened it and there was only 500 ml inside and when I tasted the beer it tasted strange. I called the brewery and they said: sorry mate but we had some unforeseen problem with the beer filling mechanism, and also we simply did not take into account that there are things coming in our way that needed bit more work. But we still decided to take your money, which ain't so bad for what you got in the end is it sir?
    • Have you ever consider the price and the content you get for such price and you cant wait few more weeks here and there? No. And why should I? I paid. I want delivery or at least signs of progress or at least explanations for delays.

    Dude everything you wrote in response to my original observation digs a bigger hole for yourself. You simply do not have a leg to stand on with the excuses you provide.
    Just deliver what you promise (and are paid) to deliver... or get people on your side by keeping us posted with weekly updates of developments even if there are none. That would keep me pacified and happy to know things are ticking away albeit at a slow pace.
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  2. Lgel

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    Hello Peevee

    Even if i understand your frustration, why don't we keep it nice in the forum.

    Aless has delivered outstanding products for us in the low hours of RF2, I too own all EGT products for RF2, had so many hours of fun with EGT,
    that I can't avoid feeling sad for such sour writings.

    Even if PX1 is incomplete at the moment you can have great fun driving them as they are, running multi class races against GT cars.

    I have no doubts that Aless will deliver an outstanding product to all his customer, simply RF2 modding is very difficult, due to the ever incresasing sophistication ot the sim.

    URD is no Google or Exxon with a public relations department to smooth our feelings, as is, I suppose Aless is an overworked man, allow his team to work peacefully.

    Cheers.
     
  3. Guimengo

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    Paid work, not a donation, brings forth great expectations and responsibilities. There will be ignorant comments but again, this isn't a donation. Paying customers expecting a product they bought into being delivered, with quality.

    Posts with name calling and bad language are as annoying as users interfering with kindergarten-like moral support, giving excuses and saying it's ok. Let URD and the customer sort it out, and if needed either side can contact the moderator.
     
  4. peevee

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    Hello Lgel
    I kept it very nice. You should have seen the original I nearly posted.
    I am a big fan of URD work thus I bought everything for both platforms, but I resent Alles self righteous attitude. I owe him nothing, but he owes me. I am aggrieved, but he has no right to be.
    I am curious why you take me to task about my post, but have no problem with his impolite response to my original whine.
    I really don't think I am the villain here because I have some sarcastic responses to his tirade.
    Cheers

    PS
    I like your Mother Theresa attitude of peace and love. It's nice
     
  5. Lgel

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    Thanks.
     
  6. Lgel

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    Sorry if I annoyed you Guimengo, nobody is perfect, I don't pretend to.

    Cheers.
     
  7. Promag

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    It's a hard truth that with funding an unfinished product you are rolling the dice. I would like to think that funding these small devs to get content would be a good idea but if they don't deliver in a timely manner people will stop pre-funding, as I have. So you can say they are a small team, but they still have to deliver and they are not only are they hurting themselves but future crowdfunding projects for all. It's the old chicken or the egg principle. I'm still hoping for the cpm for the GT mod and am willing to pay for that update (I already bought the first iteration) but not holding my breath.
     
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  8. wrxxy

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    As The title states WIP!
    Sorry guys no ones perfect..........
     
  9. UnitedRacingDesign

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    peevee take it as you wish from my answer before. Im not going to argue with you.
     
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    For the PX mod we all signed up for a WIP pre-order crowd-support mod. We paid 10 EUR and we got 5 cars right now which are not perfect, but they're pretty good at the moment. Was there a launch date, was there any actual legally binding promise from URD that was not kept? No (my mistake if I missed it). Just alless being overly optimistic sometimes and saying some things will be updated next week, etc. He explained he ran into unexpected issues, take it or leave it. If someone is that unsatisfied with a finished mod like the T5 or EGT, why would they pre-order a WIP mod from the same modding team?

    And if I want to say thanks or keep up the good work, it's not kindergarten-moral support, it's being appreciative because I paid the price of a six pack and got 5 cars that I can't really drive in any race simulator at this quality. Which is pretty f*cking awesome if you ask me. But hey, let's all behave like alless stole our money just because URD didn't launch some updates when they said they would on a forum. Yep, that's the spirit!
     
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  14. peevee

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    Had my say. End of story!
     
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    As a modder myself for Virtua Simulazioni i'll take URD's side here, modding isn't easy especially when you do extreme cars. I've got a decent amount of experience in rF2 and AC and both sims have their physics based issues which you have to cater for. Then you might find a glaring issue later on, oh crap, the lod disappears, oh crap when i move the steering wheel part of the housing doesnt move with it or someone attached the wheel to the body model. I can go on for hours, there are even issues I can't talk about or problems that can happen to someone. Lets say the modeller got RSI, the physics guy broke his leg, a game dev wants work done. There is stuff URD can't talk about. For these pre-order sort of things(which i am familiar with from the flight sim days) there is a unwritten rule that you get pissed off if there is no progress for 3 months or if the project isnt finished within one year.

    Delays happen, things we can control and things we can't but this situation is not remotely bad enough to warrant attacking them. If 6 months from now there is little to no progress then anger will be warranted.

    I'm sorry but a common trend with the angry people is that they fail to understand how hard this can be at times. The raging really doesnt help to keep their morale up and no this isnt blind fanboyism, legally and ethically this is fine.

    I'd suggest they slow down a bit with the free content to focus on the paid stuff first but that could be getting done by different members of the group, I wouldn't know.

    You guys are welcome to complain but keep it civil and constructive please.
     
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    Holy internet drama batman!
     
  18. peevee

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    @brownninja97
    It's not about sides and I said my bit. When my team Everton don't deliver (which is often!) I have a groan and moan and even a rant about it but they still my team....
    Just one question to you: Virtua Simulazioni do you charge for your mods?
     
  19. Bazevo

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    You (almost) lucky boy Peevee. I'm a Bolton fan.... imagine how I feel!
     
  20. Racefreak1976

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    What do you mean FIVE cars? I only have THREE! Has there been an update recently? If so, where is my email!?
     

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