[WIP] EnduranceRacingX PX by URD Pre-order with beta access available!

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  1. Lgel

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    Don't be upset, JUANCHIOOO has valid points even if his english betrays him.

    I don't necessarily agree with all of them, but have no doubts that Aless and his team knows what they do and won't change things just to please him (they have excellent drivers in leagues testing their cars), they are kind enough to ask the opinion of ordinary folks who will be the end customers (and we have very varied skills and opinions on cars that we would be totally unable to drive in real life).

    Every comment that can improve this car is welcome (it a beta version), but some points will need further revision when all PX cars will be released to performance match them or not (I still don't know if they will be a LE or HE, or both of them).

    GTE cars are pretty well matched by the FIA, but is not the case for P1 and P1X. A Revolution is way slower than a Darche HY.

    Cheers.
     
  2. JUANCHIOOO

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    TO StrawmanAndy


    https://racetechnologies.wordpress.com/tag/brembo/

    http://www.gizmag.com/porsche-919-hybrid-lmp1-vs-audi-r18-e-tron-quattro-vs-toyotats040/31081/

    http://www.porsche.com/latin-americ...acing/racingcars/919-hybrid/featuresandspecs/




    FORMULA1 ,IndyCar,LMP1............380mm.............................. The system beside recovering energy also helps to stop the car ....... and in the video sound meters not yardsticks ...... formulates one stops of 200 km/h to 0km/h in 65 meters, neither in the video the pilot stops zero ...... the discs are 380 mm ceramic ...........
    .............Traction / transmission Operation back Traction, total traction by means of KERS in the front axis............. I leave the links him for his information


    pd.- Thank you very much Lgel..........I do not believe that they do things for my ... only I do constructive critique
     
  3. Bjørn

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    The size of the discs is one thing we can know.
    What we cannot know is the braking torque though... That's just guess work
    Adding the harvesting into the equation.

    I think the Rebellion surely shouldn't brake much better than it already does.
    The HY-cars might be a different story, because they have the harvesting going on as well, slowing them down slightly faster.
     
  4. Capeta

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    Congrats on the work.
    3D is at a very good level.
    Physics still need work I guess.
    TC isn't working (or as it should).
    Rear behaviour is weird. To be fast you have to drive it like a rental kart. Counter braking in all high speed corner.
     
  5. Quic Vic

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    Thanks for the great mod it feels good, and looks amazing. For those having issues with the back end stepping out, as noted by others it seams to be an aero balance issue, I've found taking front wing off helps along with softening the rear springs.
     
  6. Ghanja

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    Yes, guiding it to a bit more understeer does wonders ... :)
     
  7. Lgel

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    Does it do wonders for your front tires also?
    Are both front and rear tires worn in the same proportion on a long stint?

    Cheers.
     
  8. steviejb

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    Fantastic effort to get the car out, it looks AMAZING. Can't wait for the Audi. :D Some comments about the driving experience:

    1 - by default, there's very little feel through the wheel. I found I had to crank the FFB multiplier up to 2.0 from 1.0.
    2 - honestly, the way the rear loses grip, nearly endlessly, just feels weird to me. I've been attempting to tune it out since installing it. I've got it a lot better now, but the fundamental behaviour still feels a little strange to me. This is also with medium TC and it still feels like I'm counter steering through most corners. It COULD be a setup thing, but out of the box it's SO wild I wouldn't consider trying to drive it in an endurance race. The 2015 V6 turbo car is also way more oversteery than the 2014 NA V8 car, both on and off power.
    3 - I'd like to see smaller gaps in the anti-roll bar adjustments, just to allow for a little more fine tuning. Feels like the gaps between changes are a little big and have quite drastic effects on the car behaviour. Perhaps a few more options to move the weight around as well, but it could be this restrictive on the real cars for all I know.
    4 - I know it was mentioned before, but I think allowing people to raise the steering lock above 14 would be good. There are so many different wheels, rotations, preferences and such out there. I know a couple of people on the TS server I use have wondered the same thing.
     
  9. F1 2004

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    Will the V1.0 of the mod cost the same or will be cheaper/more expensive?
     
  10. UnitedRacingDesign

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    More expensive.
     
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  12. Lgel

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    Brakes PX1

    @JUANCHIOOO
    Hello,

    For PX1 2015 the engine has less brake (correct it is a turbo reving lower, with less displacement), so you must change your brake balance to give more relevance to rear. Torque is higher so you must have a smoother action on the gas pedal. A little more oversteer on power, very pleasing if it doesn't destroy rear tires on long runs (if it the case, I would raise front spring stiffness, dampers, front ARB, lower rear ARB).

    Do you agree?

    Cheers.

    P.S. User error PX1 2015 reports rear tires temp to Motec.
     
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  13. JUANCHIOOO

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    Rear-wheel drive, all-wheel drive using KERS in front axle.............MGU on the front axle, power > 400 CV...........front axle pull very strong and self-locking differential back, not be exact if it should or not be as well as you say, but a 4 x 4 is hard to not do skid, or turn, more if the 400 horsepower electric motor pulls the front axle... rfactor 2 is a simulator and reality is a little different
     
  14. Lgel

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    Please, I don't understand what you are talking about. The Revolucion is not an Hybrid car as far as I know, am I so wrong?
    Cheers.

    My info.


    Rebellion Racing R-One AER

    ENGINE: AER P60 direct injection twin-turbocharged V6.
    POWER: n/a.
    TORQUE: n/a.
    TRANSMISSION: 7-speed sequential.
    DRIVETRAIN: rear-wheel-drive.
    FUEL CAPACITY: 68litres.
    WHEELS/TYRES: 18 inch front and rear Michelin.
    MINIMUM WEIGHT: 850kg.
    DIMENSIONS: 4650mm (length), 1900mm (width), 1050mm (height).
     
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  15. UnitedRacingDesign

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    You are right, this car is not hybrid.
     
  16. JUANCHIOOO

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    I am sorry, I was commenting on the royal vehicle, that of URD, it is not 4x4 and is not hybrid, therefore it does not have traction in the front axis

    In the last version, I see that it has oversteer............. It depends on the setup......The setup influences very much..........To raise the back bar or the forward to diminish, or even to lower front wharves........

    To the values I want to say, to make the front suspension soft
     
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  17. LeStrat

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    Which real car, JUANCHIO? This is representing the Rebellion, which is a private LPM1 car. All private LMP1 cars are RWD and non-hybrid.

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    Spanish:

    JUANCHIO, este coche es una recreación del Rebellion, es un LMP1 real, pero sólo los oficiales (Porsche, Auidi, Peugeot y Nissan) son híbridos, los LMP1 de equipos privados, como lo es el Rebellion, no son híbridos, ni 4x4.
     
  18. JUANCHIOOO

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    si cierto LeStrat hubo una confusión porque estaba hablando del diámetro de los discos usados por los P1 , y el comentario del compañero refería al P1 de URD.........ya me disculpe

    If certain LeStrat there was confusion because I was talking about the diameter of the disks used by the P1, and fellow comment referring to the URD P1... I already I apologise, do it again sorry
     
  19. Pelukas

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    Hola que tal ??.. Españoles!!! Joer no entiendo nada,pero sigo el hilo ,casi siempre tapatalk y en inglés y no me entero?
    Estado apuntó de comprarlo ya que EGT no acabó de convencerme las físicas, y me gustaría saber quental esta el PX.
    Estoy formateando y cuando acabe me gustaría comprarlo,un saludo a todos
     
  20. LeStrat

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    There is a Spanish subforum where we can continue our discussion in our language. It makes no sense to keep messing this thread.
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    Spanish:
    Hay un subforo en español en el que se puede seguir debatiendo en nuestro idioma. Estamos ensuciando este hilo y no tiene sentido.
     
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