[REL] Endurance Series rF2

Domi said:
Nobody talked about that kind of movement. Also, regardless of your experience, even if you were Lewis Hamilton, what has been talking about is totally objective, they are elemental physics. As for the last paragraph, I think most of us here have years of sim experience to know about lack of seat of pants feeling...
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After having the opportunity to put in some decent seat time in several cars from both the Enduracers and APEX GT3, I'm now getting a better sense of what has been described earlier in the thread RE: The inertia. Now, I'm not sure if it's a matter of the cars being woefully under damped (specifically rebound), or, if it's the actual inertia values showing this....but...using the "Flat 6" as my base, the ES version seems *slightly* sluggish on initial steering input, which changes to transitionally loose or tail-happy when the weight actually transfers (i.e. the dampers not doing an adequate job of controlling the weight transfer). Maybe I'll try some laps later today with more damper and less spring (between those two changes, the overall damping ratio will increase). I did notice that the ES Flat-6 car runs substantially more spring than the APEX car, but I have no idea what the actual wheel rates/frequencies are because the ES MAS files are encrypted. MOTEC data does confirm that the APEX car is "more damped" relatively speaking compared to the ES car.

Come to think of it, the feeling is fairly similar to the first versions of the ISI C6R GT2 car (obviously not identical but similar, as the weight is in a difference place between the two). I seem to remember being able to tame it a bit with more damper. We will see...

Enduracers Team: I really really really like this mod. Keep it up. I'm more than confident that you guys will get the physics numbers dialed in for future updates/releases.
 
Before I did some additional testing with the Flat6 GTE car, I ran some laps in the GTC/GT3 Cup car. There is definitely a feeling in the GTC car that doesn't exist in the GTE car. The steering feels a bit more connected and the car has less of a "pendulum" effect with respect to weight transfer. More "alive", if you will.

Moving on to the GTE car, you can tell right away the steering doesn't feel as direct. Now, after going with softer springs and more damper resistance, I could feel some of the weight transfer induced swinging around started to reduce. Added a few clicks stiffer front ARB and it helped yet again. While the car still feels a bit disconnected in the steering, you can definitely tune away some of the symptoms we have been discussing previously.

All testing was done at Matsusaka/Suzuka. I felt the sweeping nature of the circuit would be best to expose the traits we are trying to deal with.
 
In case you guys missed it.

https://www.facebook.com/EnduRacers-Modding-Team-267099786652429/?ref=bookmarks

Today, Studio 397 Dev Team will be releasing an important update of rFactor2, introducing in particular the much awaited DX11 graphic technology to the platform. S397 team has made a good job ensuring that current DX9 MODs are compatible and can be used directly without errors or game crashes. Anyway, if you directly test our MODs on this new build, you may notice some graphic issues, such as no reflections on cars bodywork, or high saturation on cars Motec devices.

The team is aware of the situation. We are currently discussing the best way to go internally. We were not supposed to release any new builds soon, but we can not let you use the mod with graphic lacks without enjoying the benefits of the DX11 move. We will keep you informed when our decision is made. Stay tuned and congrats to Studio 397 for this update !
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Dear community,

We would like the confirm you that we will be releasing in the upcoming weeks a new build update of our MODs, Endurance Series rF2 and Flat6 Series rF2, linked to the release of the rFactor2 DX11 first build and the fact that our shaders are not working correctly on DX11. The new builds will include the following changes :

* Graphics : Updated bodywork shader.
* Graphics : Updated dashboard display devices shader.
* Physics : Correction of cars inertia values.
 
klo-che said:
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Dear community,

We would like the confirm you that we will be releasing in the upcoming weeks a new build update of our MODs, Endurance Series rF2 and Flat6 Series rF2, linked to the release of the rFactor2 DX11 first build and the fact that our shaders are not working correctly on DX11. The new builds will include the following changes :

* Graphics : Updated bodywork shader.
* Graphics : Updated dashboard display devices shader.
* Physics : Correction of cars inertia values.
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Great to hear, also nice oreca05 you got there :D
 
Will this make the mod lighter? Saw some reports that when a Enduracers car is in front of you there is more fps drop than in any other mod in DX11. Didn't check it yet myself
 
ucfquattroguy said:
Before I did some additional testing with the Flat6 GTE car, I ran some laps in the GTC/GT3 Cup car. There is definitely a feeling in the GTC car that doesn't exist in the GTE car. The steering feels a bit more connected and the car has less of a "pendulum" effect with respect to weight transfer. More "alive", if you will.

Moving on to the GTE car, you can tell right away the steering doesn't feel as direct. Now, after going with softer springs and more damper resistance, I could feel some of the weight transfer induced swinging around started to reduce. Added a few clicks stiffer front ARB and it helped yet again. While the car still feels a bit disconnected in the steering, you can definitely tune away some of the symptoms we have been discussing previously.

All testing was done at Matsusaka/Suzuka. I felt the sweeping nature of the circuit would be best to expose the traits we are trying to deal with.
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Increase your caster gives more feeling and all GTE P@ cars giving me a hugh FFB but thats with a OSW have to reduce carspecifics FFB back from 1.00 to 0,32 otherwise cant turn the wheel anymore and in crash i brake my arms (
 
Chris Lesperance said:
Great to hear an update is coming. I know it sin't going to be a full release, but seeing the Oreca, is it safe to assume that the Oreca would be included :)

The physics fix will be a welcome addition! Really looking forward to it!
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Really doubt that it's included, I guess they'll be saving that for 2.0 (or service pack 1, don't know how they'll call it). I'd guess it would be included with the change log if that was the case.
 
Awesome Mr K. I will enter one teeny tiny complaint. On the Ligier, the clear glass covers for the headlights looks like it was removed. You see the outline where the glass should meet the carbon fender but then it is difficult to see the glass itself. Makes the front fenders look a little truncated. Could just be the angle of the images but may be something that needs a little highlight.
 
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