So, according tot he guidelines, the dx9 glows are no longer needed for dx11 but it needs the be bright enough to trigger the glow. I tried 2 different ways, emisive 100% white and 100% emissive colored and neither "glowed" at all. I used the materials in the lighting example too. I even tried adding a tiny white dot in the center and still no glow. Anyone got an example of 3ds settings that work?