dumb AI behaviour

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  1. redapg

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    @Forcer77 Did you ever try it with the original MP4/8 only?
    No 3rd Party Updates, Skin Packs.....
     
  2. Forcer77

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    it's completely original MP4/8 with shadow skins...no any changes to physics, tyres, talent files etc. Just skins. Skins have no any effect on AI behavior :D
     
  3. redapg

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    That's true, as long as they are really ONLY Skins. :)
    But what stays is my Doubt.
    If it would be a general Problem in the Code, i would have been able to easily reproduce it.
     
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    ONLY skins! I know enough about rFactor to say that. Just try to do several races in the middle of pack with close competition when AI is more or less faster than you. And you will see... Of course it doesn't happen every time... sometimes AI behaves appropriately and attentively, but sometimes they do something stupid as it is on my videos. You can have adequate clear racing and fight with AI during several laps but then suddenly it drives into you.
    it only took me a few races to record all these AI faults on videos above
     
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  5. Forcer77

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    okay. Finally I did some tests with S397 official content
    Car: McLaren Senna DLC
    Track: Circuit d'Azur (Monaco)
    Settings: AI strength 100%, AI aggression 5%, AI limiter 5%

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    AI cars just hit the walls without any reason :confused:

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    AI cars hit the walls and each others while trying to overtake in places where no room for overtaking

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    AI just ram into other car

    Conclusion:
    All of these incidents happened on first three laps... I even didn't bother myself to run full race distance because it has zero sense considering such AI condition...and funny thing - I have other free version of Monaco track from workshop and it seems that AI behaves there even better than on this official track o_O I don't want to be rude and overly critical but... really...it's paid content and when I buy it, I expect it to work properly... at least without such obvious bugs...and I will be able to race with the AI drivers without worrying about what other stupid things they might do...
     
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  6. DJCruicky

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    On tracks where pit and garages are on same spot AI cars go weird.
     
  7. Manfredk2

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    At Belle Isle i have also garages and pit spots at the same place and no issues. Which track is this NJ Lightning?

    ok, had a look at Lightning. This is no AI problem but a wrong setting in the gdb. Garagedepth is set to 2.5 which means afaik the AI cars drive for 2.5 car lenghts straight before steering to the pit line. As the pit and garage spots are a bit narrow this value must be lowered. With 0.1 all cars leave garages/pits without issues
     
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  8. Juergen-BY

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    Same problem here. AI crashing into human driver as hell. Seems mostly modding cars have that problem?
     
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  9. Juergen-BY

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    Hi DJCruicky,
    Can you pls tell me, wich version before v1133 dont have that wrong ai behaivor?
     
  10. DatBoi

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    I have the same issue, can't even get past the first few corners without getting rear ended. This is with a fresh install all official cars and tracks.
     
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  11. jim123

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    version 1132 works ok
     
  12. Herve_Versabeau

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    @DatBoi
    wich car and track ?
    I don't have any issue with gte on donington nationale or spa for example

    My position at the start race = 27
    ai drivers = 29
    ai strength = 105%
    ai agression = 75%
    ai limiter =0
     
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  13. Juergen-BY

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    Thanks. Anyone around who can help me with the command to install v1132 with steamcmd? Cant get it working, get allways v1133 installed.
     
  14. jim123

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    open steam
    right click rfactor 2
    click properties
    select betas
    beta participation select "previous-release - this is the previous public stable build"
     
  15. Juergen-BY

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    Yes, thanks, i know that allready. I was asking for the batch command to install that version with steamcmd. I have a second install with steamcmd...
    I`m using this in my batch file:
    Code:
    call steamcmd +force_install_dir "E:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\rfactor2_steamcmd" +login <User> <Password> +app_update 365960 -beta v1132 validate +quit
    
    but it installs allways v1133.
     
  16. Goanna

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    -beta previous-release instead of -beta v1132
     
  17. Juergen-BY

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    Many thanks. Everything would be easier, if the real v. Numbers could be used for that, isnt it?
     
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  18. bears

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    Ditto for me it’s getting frustrating now
     
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    Can someone please explain what this thread is finally about? Is about big cars crashing in Monaco?

    I'd like to try the problematic combo but it's hard to read. It's all about sad and angry emotions but little info about which problem happens with which combo.
     
  20. Juergen-BY

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    Its more rant about AI behaivor after latest rF2 update, not track or car specific...
     

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