data on same drive as core or not?

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  1. MystaMagoo

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    usually I have data on a different drive to the core.
    how often does rF2 access the data?
    the drive I have it on 'sleeps' while nothing is happening on it so if rF2 calls for something it has to spin up 1st.
    this usually takes a second or so,so if rF2 needs the info asap and does not get it would it cause a crash?

    I have core on SSD and data is on a 'normal' HD.
     
  2. DurgeDriven

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    Are you asking or telling it is not clear ?

    Has it ever crashed ?
    Information rF2 needs is cached.

    Why don't you do a normal install, I guess to save SSD space ?

    Makes no sense to me 100+ dollars to boot rF2 a little faster.

    Nice if you can afford it BUT NOT if you have to split folders. ?




    rF2 will work perfect on an ancient ATA-100 Hardrive.


    I just won't understand even at prices today how it is worth paying $50 to store one sim

    I understand they are awesome to have if you have money to blow but too many people buy them
    being convinced by others they are some holy grail.

    You spend barely 1% of your simming life booting them .....are people really that impatient. ?
     
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  3. DurgeDriven

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    I answer this because no one else gives you the time of day.


    800 views


    Remember that..............
     
  4. Denstjiro

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    Ok I will answer him Durge.

    Hey Mysta, I have no clue man, i'm sorry. maybe the other 799 people don't know either.
     
  5. DurgeDriven

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    Of course they don't .............. :rolleyes:


    Bit late after 6 days to be sarcastic mate
     
  6. Denstjiro

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    It's never too late to be sarcastic Durgins
     
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  8. MystaMagoo

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    SSD just isn't about boot time :p
    but yes it was to save space.

    Basically I'm trying to ascertain why my rF2 is crashing all the time.
    coming to the conclusion it's rF2 and not my system.
    but you2 have made me chuckle hehe
     
  9. DurgeDriven

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    So if you use a SSD what is it about if not booting faster then ? :)

    I have a Black Caviar is 1/8th the price per GB and rF2 runs just fine.

    I could fit a single rF2 folder on my 60GB SSD okay and leave packages as I do in archives.

    My OS is tiny I like a SSD to have a lot of free blocks if you have a SSD with 10% of space then only that 10% of blocks are getting written to which would degrade performance of my SSD faster slowing Windows in the process.


    You get my point ?


    Also my problem is I do really rock solid True Image backups of my OS, like from the day I install new drivers on a fresh OS I tweak it to my specs then I save it. I do not do incremental backups.

    So having only 1 SSD stands to reason my image restores will take 2-3 times longer.
    I would have to do them more frequently to backup any changes to rFactor2 for on a image restore i would lose the changes.

    Which makes any gain in SSD track loads time redundant...........in my situation


    Hope you understood that.




    If you have money to spend on your hobby everything I said above is irrelevant.

    Personally I would need a 256GB SSD just for the folders of sims ( GTR/GTL/rF/GPL/FT ) I have installed not to mention Steam or my sim archives.

    I not going to split my SIM partition up for convenience of booting my few favorite sims a little faster.

    In that case it would cost me $35-40 a sim title to "SSD" them.

    In my situation to do that for sims is just not feasible and the bang for buck poor.
     
  10. K Szczech

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    rF2 does not use any kind of streaming technology that requires constant access to files.
    The only things affected by your file locations should be loading times - time to load menu, time to load track, time to load car in showroom, time to install mod, etc.

    Unless you're using some plugins that write a lot of data to disk while you drive (like telemetry plugins), but in that case it doesn't matter where rF2 installation folders are, but where that plugin saves log file.
     
  11. F1Fan07

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    If you wanted to test this I suppose you could move your replay folder to the HDD. That will be constantly accessed during sessions. I'm not at my PC to check but in rF1 there was a PLR option to write replays to RAM or disk. If that exists in rF2 you'll want to ensure you're writing to disk then that HDD will never spin down when you're in the sim.
     
  12. MystaMagoo

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    Just to clear a few things up.

    My normal HD goes to sleep when not in use.
    when a program calls for something on it I can hear it spin up.
    this of course delays things.
    never had a problem before with it but for whatever reason rF2 won't work for me now.

    just trying to eliminate things...........but I've given up now on rF2 until the next build.
    back to rF1 for now...........

    running windows on a SSD is way 'snappier' than normal HD
    as you know space is a premium so no reason to keep GB's of rF2 stuff on it when it can go on the other HD
     
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    Certainly is, it saves much frustration waiting Windows to open.
    Its also cool to show off :D
    I have RF2 in the other HD and all works ok.
     
  14. Depco

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    I too had my rF2 install spread across two drives in the same manner as you. I was having significant stuttering issues with freezes of 1 second or so. Move the install to one driver (Secondary). My stuttering issue is gone... the crashing issue is a constant issue regardless of drive configuration.
     
  15. tjc

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    I`ve always had data and core on the same drive, in the same folder - SIMS drive - rf2 - buildxxxx and never had any problems...
     
  16. MerlinC

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    What about the replay? Isn't that written to the storage device during the sessions as long you didn't configure tomstore it into memory (which can only be recommended when you really have sufficient memory or doing very short sessions).
     
  17. DurgeDriven

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    That sounds the logical option hey ? like dur

    hehehe ( rev 'em up lol )

    Happy new Year Mate

    Splitting folders seriously ? ., and replays ?

    If you are fair dinkum about online forget them, concentrate on lapping not bloody watching yourself. !@!



    lmao
     
  18. tjc

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    lol...

    Happy New Year D. All the best mate.

    :cool:

    :)
     

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