Commercial license for sim center

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  1. atomed

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    Hello everyone

    I´ve been looking for similar posts in the forum but did not find anything similar so I´m going to ask myself. I´m planning to build a simulation center in my home town, Pamplona. Currently I am in the fase of gathering info and doing numbers. It will consist on 7 cockpits, 6 regular ones and another Formula style. I would like to know what would be the cost of working with your software.

    Thanks.
     
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    I went once with friends to such simulation center, years ago. It was a nice day with hardware I'll probably never buy.
    But that business closed down within a few years only, and I can see why. Simulation is already niche as it is, it takes a lot of people coming often to make a living of it. Best of luck for your project.
     
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    Si el proyecto llega a materializarse iremos a probarlo. Mucha suerte y mantennos informados.
    Saludos desde Asturias.
     
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    I copied this from another forum (I hope that is okay and within the rules. Otherwise please delete this post):

    "..12 (simulators) minimum, all with motion. You're catering to the leisure market, not sim racers. People who race regularly will be happy with a G29 and a 1070 Gaming PC at home.

    I'm in the early stages of planning one in the UK after running a VRcade from 2016-18.

    Don’t buy cheap gear coz it breaks ... I've been chatting with other venue owners.

    Circa $100k investment to get up and running....don’t forget LAN, routers, spectator screens and race control PC, cash register, food and drink service, website build, shop fitting including electrics platforms for station builds. And then ongoing rent, property taxes, advertising costs utilities and broadband. It's not a bunch of $2000 gaming rigs in a room.

    You need to work out your asset depreciation over 2 to 4 years depending on what type if asset it is... PCs 2 years, things like 8020 rigs should last 4. Also add maintenance at 10 to 20% per year.

    Last one... software licensing which is from $500 for 2 years per seat up to $1500 per year depending on which sim you go with and how many and how long for.

    Then compare things like bowling, karting, trampolines, paintball in your area to get an hourly rate per person that people are willing to pay for leisure activity.

    Then you know given costs and market rates if you have a viable business..."
     
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  6. atomed

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    Thank you all for the replies, I asked Marcel, hope he gives me some info, if we open the sim center I´ll let you know.

    Cheers.
     
  7. Steve Olden

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    I think the opposite is true, people into racing regularly at home will want to upgrade their gear as and when possible.

    The leisure market do not need high end gear to get a thrill from their one off sim racing experience....and anything given to the public to use will break, cheap or not. Just have lots of cheap stuff to swap out as spares.
    Motion is not necessary as a lot of people won't get on with it. (i've seen some that couldn't even bear to race in front of a screen for more than 5mins.)
    nicely painted up wooden cockpits would suffice, people would probably feel more at ease in something that looks like a race car rather than a torture rack. (8020 rigs are functional, but they ain't pretty)
     
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    I think the regular racers being referred to are people who come to play on the rigs regularly, not at home. Sim racers already have their kit and can play people online already. If those guys are coming in it's for the atmosphere and giving their friends a hard time, and they don't need the very best for that.

    Agree on motion too, for average Joe an impressive screen and buttkickers in a 'proper' cockpit is fine.
     
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    The possibility of a couple of the rigs having VR would be something to think about as well. Not all VR as, much like motion rigs, some people dont get along with VR either.
     

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