Build300: Massive lag when playing

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  1. ViSo

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    just that, I have a massive 2.000ping when Im playing rFactor2, no external programs, no other computers, tryed in different servers, its ok in serverlist, but is extremelly lagging when playing, the game is smooth as always graphically (+120fps always and no stuttering/anything bad) that massive lag makes me to ''connection lost'' in the second lap, and from Teamspeak I get connection lost too, as soon as the game is closed, the conexion is completly stable and perfectly again.

    I found that in trace.txt, whats that??? ::
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    Its a shame in every build have some serious problem, is a bit frustating and makes me to think about another game ...
     
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  2. ViSo

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    Update:
    - Its still happening without these lines in trace.txt, in other tries they arent here and I was still having the problem.
    - I fully uninstalled rFactor2, deleted his folder, and did a new fresh install, with a few ISI cars/tracks, not any other cars/tracks, the problem is still there.

    Seriously guys Im in a League and need this to be fixed ... :S

    more info:
    i7 3770k + 16GM RAM + HD5870, etc, I mean, is not my PC.
     
  3. Noel Hibbard

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    Sounds like you have an internet connection problem. You're losing your TS connection at the same time which is a clear indication.

    Please tell me you aren't on WiFi.
     
  4. ViSo

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    Im not on Wifi, and no one is using my connection. I know it sounds like it, and it was the first think I checked, and it is ok.
    My connection is fine, with 0.00% packet lost in TS3, and just when I join a server in rFactor2, it changes to ''retrieving'' and then ''connection lost'' in both rFactor2 and TS3 (and all my internet, for being collapsed I suppose.)

    I tried a couple of times, and only happens when I join a server in rFactor2. If Im in the servers list, or with rFactor2 closed, there is any issue, like I said, 0.00% packet lost in TS3 and all fine.

    Finally Im sorry if there is some mistakes in my English, it is not my native language, and I try to do my best.
     
  5. 88mphTim

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    Contact your ISP and ask them to help you with your connection problems. If TS loses also, then it isn't rF2. It's either a problem with your PC or your connection.
     
  6. ViSo

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    FOUND IT!!!!!
    Trackmap plugin v0.94

    haha, I told you, It was from rFactor2: It happens ONLY when I join a server, what happens with TS3 is a colateral damage by this problem.

    Im without trackmap now, but atleast I can play!

    How do you know it is the trackmap plugin?
    1: Tried deleting 1 by 1, everything, and checked if it works. When I deleted trackmap plugin it was solved (24ms ping, like always, no internet issue, no problems, etc ...)
    2: Installed again that trackmap plugin, the problem started again.
    3: Deleted trackmap plugin, the problem is solved again.
    4: So, it is the trackmap plugin!

    Why it happens now, and not with Build 240 and older? I dont know. (I dont had time to try the build 298, so I dont know if it started with the build 298.)
     
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    Are you sure?

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  8. 88mphTim

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    So it was your PC. ;) TS probably can't overlay while the plugin is. Maybe contact the plugin maker and tell him?


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  9. 88mphTim

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    Yes.


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  10. Mario Morais

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    Trackmap plugin should be banned! :) Track map is for console games! :D
     
  11. Noel Hibbard

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    Well the track map plugin does way more than just a map. Also, a track map is sort of needed for online races. Exiting the pits or rejoining the track after an off is difficult without it. Sure it may not be realistic but neither is a head that doesn't turn freely on your shoulders. ;)

    Glad you found the problem. Be sure to report it to Fazerbox. I am sure he will issue a quick fix.
     
  12. ViSo

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    it is funny to see people saying ''it is everything but not my product, im sure''

    it wasnt my PC as my PC is working correctly, PC as hardware, and software because trackmap is part of rF2 and not of my PC.
    the TS problem is a colateral lagging damage, I told you, there are more things like 2.000ping, and webpages not loading, it wasnt only the TS3, it was a internet connection collapsed problem.

    But I have to do some more test since, I redid the 2nd step, reinstalled the trackmap plugin, and surprising now it works, I dont know how since it is now like the beginning, so there is one more ''ghost problem'' by rFactor.

    Note: Im not using the trackmap itself, I have it disabled, but its widgets info are usefull. (like everyone topspeed, realtime time table, realtime grip, realtime height, ...)
     
  13. Noel Hibbard

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    Well I wouldn't blame it on the game because a plugin was crashing. As it is you reinstalled the plugin and now it works. Are you saying 300 is bug free now?

    The map plugin relies on a d3d proxy dll. You probably copied the plugin to your new install but forgot to move the d3d proxy dll while you were at it. I have missed that countless times with the rF1 version.
     
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    Alright, if a plugin for rf2 is considered to be the PC then you are right. Nor the OP, nor me understood that. Hopefully he didn't call hiis ISP to solve the problem.

    It is clear that plugins will keep on being a problem as they were with rf1. D3d9.dll using plugins always give me problems. I never use trackmap because it drops to 14 fps no matter the setting I use. SweetFX does not work either. It probably relates to what Noel says but I don understand it and I have never been able to fix it.
    Trackmap information is very useful and I would be glad to see it as a proper HUD in the game. Most driving titles have included the map for several years. Why rf2 is different?

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    ISI can't provide support for plugin issues, so from their point of view it's a PC problem. A plugin could do a lot of things (and I won't go into details, but if you think about it a bit...) and rF2/ISI would in no way be responsible for it.
     
  16. ViSo

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    Ok, today I retried a bit more, yesterday I was at 2AM and didnt investigated so much, now was fine with trackmap, but as soon as I leave the pits the problem come back, is a bit diference because when I had the problems firstly, I was having it as soon as I join a server, in lobby, and yesterday didnt had this problem in lobby. However, I was trying alone in an empty server, like now. And firstly there was a friend running it the server, so I think it is the trackmap plugin, and is related with a car running.

    So: I can re-confirm and without any doubt, this is a Trackmap problem, I suspect it is related with a car running, if there is no car running, seems that the problem dont start, but cant confirm this, the unique think Im pretty sure is trackmap will be no longer in my PC :)

    @Noel
    Im pretty sure Im doing every installation correctly, that cant be a posibility.

    Case closed.
     
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    I have the same problem.

    Gadir
     
  18. ViSo

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    thats like always, every rFactor2 installation is a new world, it happens in rFactor1 too ...

    And please, forget that teamspeak info, that was a colateral damage as I said, the problem is a collapsed connection, for that reason teamspeak drops, everything gets drops, webbrowser, ts, rf2, ...
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    Gadir and John: to try to find the problem/conflict if there is any, what plugins do you have?
    I just have Motec Plugin and DashMeterPro Plugin.
    And about the game I have the Lite b.300 core and some ISI cars/tracks.
     
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    So you still think about another game?
     
  20. ViSo

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    Problem is back

    I was testing it by doing the outlap, because just leaving the pit always begin the massive lag, and I was thinking that by doing the entire outlap it was solved. It was not solved, and Im not using Trackmap plugin anymore, is probably that the trackmap plugin force the problem to apear quickly, I dont know, but Im still having 2.000 ping only when playing, dont be troll and tell me about my internet connection because while the game was bugged (that dont let you start the game by license issue) I was not playing, and my internet works fine, only when I start the game and join a server, the 2.000ping come back, and just leaving the server, the connection is working fine again. It isnt my Internet.
    ofcourse, Asseto Corsa will be a great game, and Im sure it will not be a ton-buggy game. The technical support is the biggest area of rFactor2 forum, it tells you something about this game?
     

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