Better performance needed

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What GPU should I buy to get better performance? (budget, lets say 120€). I have AMD APU A-10-5700 with HD 7660D and 8 GB ddr3 and it seems my GPU is insufficient (I want to reach 60fps in all situations) to run this game with high resolution and with reflections and high shadows. Or can I do something with my current hardware to get better performance out of it. Overclock CPU to 4 ghz? ( how and is it worth it?)

Or do you think that I have good enough hardware to run this game with all settings on and high/full and with high resolution after this game goes to gold?
 
The APU solution that has come about is a little disappointing in that it doesn't perform well compared to regular graphics cards. The plus side to it is that you can install a regular card of the same brand and use a hybrid type of crossfire in order to improve the performance. I would suggest at least getting a HD 7950 and setting up CCC to use them both. If that card costs too much, consider the 7850 instead. This should allow you to achieve the fps you are looking for on a single screen. Getting an nVidia card won't help unless you don't want to use the APU at all.
 
Does APU refer to my CPU or GPU? What benefits there are using two GPUs? I think both 7950 and 7850 are way over my budget? 7660D has a low benchmark value (something 750) so I would assume that anything with higher value is better?
 
APU is basically CPU + GPU (GPU is a part of the CPU). Benefit of using two or more GPUs is that they can render more (so you get better frame rates or you can increase some graphics settings). But there can also be some issues with more GPUs (rF2 currently has a few).

You have a few options like AMD Radeon 7770 or Nvidia Geforce 650 SE or Nvidia Geforce 650 Ti (this one is the best of the three but may be a bit out of your budget for now, its pretty new so maybe you can wait a bit for it to drop in price).

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-3.html
 
Can you name some of the issues rf2 currently has with two GPUs?

I looked for the cards you recommended for me but I get several hits with those GPU names and they have different prices. (even 50 € differences). Lowest price was one version of HD 7770 with 129,90 € when there also were more expensive versions of the same card ranging from 137,90 € to 164,90 €

examples: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/s?s=1&q=HD+7770&submit=Hae (finnish site, but you can see the names and prices)
 
I have only one GPU so I don't know exactly what issues are there (bad frame rates, stuttering come to mind), try to search these forums.

You can also look at the previous page at the source link I posted (there are less expensive graphics - Radeon 7750 I think).
 
Not much, some have additional software or some cables. The only important difference is that some are OC (=OverClocked) meaning you will get a bit better performance from them.
 
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this was found by using a google search bud, try it some time hey.
Its some info on the differences between gpus....compare yourself.
Also maybe your a little out of your depth, as are some others who think they can play games with some lowly powered laptops or older pc's, sometimes you simply need to upgrade parts, or just buy a new system, save up if you really want something i say, or stop dreaming. Pc stuff these days is cheap, imo.... sorry if you cant afford that but asking people here multiple ?s of this kind is simply annoying some of us i believe.
 
As Abriel stated, the APU is a combination of the CPU and GPU put together in the same chip. The disadvantages of this design is that it uses system ram that is attached to the motherboard for memory instead of faster memory that is attached to a dedicated graphics card.

Getting what you can afford in the HD 7XXX line will all do you some good, but the better the card the better the performance, especially when setup with crossfire with the graphics processor in your APU.
 
Tony H said:
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this was found by using a google search bud, try it some time hey.
Its some info on the differences between gpus....compare yourself.
Also maybe your a little out of your depth, as are some others who think they can play games with some lowly powered laptops or older pc's, sometimes you simply need to upgrade parts, or just buy a new system, save up if you really want something i say, or stop dreaming. Pc stuff these days is cheap, imo.... sorry if you cant afford that but asking people here multiple ?s of this kind is simply annoying some of us i believe.
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Just want to know some basic stuff and I will not bother you guys after that :P I ask so much because apparently I'm out of the pc gaming genre at the moment when I tought that my NEWLY bought hardware would run this game better than it is. Salesman was not informative enough I guess :/

I think that GPU is not cheap when for example GTX 680 cost alone nearly as much as my whole pc :P

One last questions: If I buy more RAM would it effect the performance of my HD 7660D? Are other GPUs that I could install bound to use RAM instead of their own memory?
 
More ram won't help with the performance of the GPU built into the CPU. As I have told you before too, if you wish to use both the built in GPU as well as another card, you have to use ATI HD 7XXX series cards. If you are going to use only a single card, then you can use either ATI or nVidia. The cost of a HD 7850 here in the US is around $170. That would equate to around 134 Euro's. That is only a little over your budget if you can swing it.
 
@Tony H:
You are comparing different kinds of GPUs, he was comparing same kind (just 7770).

@Gearjammer:
Usually the cost of PC components when comparing US dollars to euro is like 1=1 at least by my experience.
If you look at the link he posted you can find 7850 for 238eur or more so... quite a lot over budget.
 
Abriel Nei said:
@Tony H:
You are comparing different kinds of GPUs, he was comparing same kind (just 7770).

@Gearjammer:
Usually the cost of PC components when comparing US dollars to euro is like 1=1 at least by my experience.
If you look at the link he posted you can find 7850 for 238eur or more so... quite a lot over budget.
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Man I hate the differences between the US and there, LoL OK, point taken. :) Thanks Abriel
 
Do not bother trying to increase the performance of RF2 or indeed any software using Crossfire, it simply does not work. I had a Radeon 6870x2 and I decided after reading an article on Tomshardware that I would be better off buying another 6870 than getting a 7970, so I did. What I found is that crossfire is the biggest pile of broken rubbish any hardware manufacturer has had the audacity to charge people for. Every single piece of software I had performed worse, I even reinstalled Windows to check as I thought I must have some driver issue. Even if I managed to get higher FPS it was not smooth and fluid, occasionally it made me feel like my eyes were watering. Some software like Rage would not even run with the 3 cores enabled. So if you want higher benchmark figures and incompatibility use crossfire, if you want real world better performance buy the best single gpu you can afford. (I sent the single 6870 back and sold the 6870x2 and bought a 7870) And don't blame ISI for poor multi gpu performance, of everything I tried RF2 performed the best with 3 gpu's but it was still better (smoother) with only 1 gpu enabled. This is with eyefinity triple screen setup but I have no reason to believe it would be any better with a single screen.
 
Ok, useful information Murtaya, thanks. If I go with one GPU can I physically remove the 7660D or do I have to set it off from settings?
 
You would have to disable the 7660D in your bios.

Also Muraya, there are quite a number of people using crossfire or SLI without any issues and are seeing some very nice performance increases because of it. Just because you had issues doesn't mean it doesn't work.
 
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