Article: Latest Update: Brabham Development Preview (WIP)

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  1. Christopher Elliott

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    thanks!
     
  3. Martin Vindis

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    No version for non-steam users?
     
  4. Minibull

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    This has been addressed multiple times over. The final release version will be available all around. But using the Steam Workshop while developing it makes it easier to push updates out.
     
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    Tricky little guy to drive and setup. Initial turn-in has been good, but quickly turning to heavy mid-corner understeer. I loosened the diff preload quite a bit, disconnected rear ARB, and increased rear springs a couple of clicks. Car now will enter the corner properly with the rear feeling like it's following the front, as opposed to being dragged around. Traction at corner exit is also much improved.

    At "Suzuka", the aero balance seemed a bit too much front-biased. Add a click of rear wing and the car is now nice to drive through 130R.
     
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    I thought this was being developed in conjunction with the blog. If so, when do we expect to see the blog regarding ultrachassis.
     
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    Added front suspensions + spindles
    Added chassis flex

    Waiting for some writing about this Michael Borda......
     
  8. Christopher Elliott

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    Thank you for the detailed feedback
     
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    We decided this time to get the car update out a little earlier than the blog, Michael's development blog should be out soon explaining the recent updates to the BT44. Thanks for your continued feedback.
     
  10. Michael Borda

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    Sorry for the delay in getting the blog post ready, I had my reasons. It's available now though. Hopefully it's helpful to modders UltraChassis Implementation.
     
  11. Jyyka Pihtari

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    Currently this car is a bit of a tank slapper in high speed corners, and the only way to cure it is max rear wing. My guess is that the tyres are the problem.
     
  12. Minibull

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    Tank slapper, as in you are having the car oscillate in small slides?
     
  13. Jyyka Pihtari

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    Yes. Various suspension and tyre adustments won't fix it. It's like the tyres loose their cohesion at max load or something.

    E: On second thought, it's not about tyre load since max wing fixes it.
     
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    You need to be very sure you keep a slight slide going, or you will have the car start to snap out of a slide, then start to point out of the corner, then start sliding again. A video would be really helpful in seeing what is going on here.

    Seeing as Michael has said the tyres aren't finished, maybe it's just going to be part of the refinement. We shall see :)

    It makes sense that running max wing will keep the car much more steady. The Megane is like that, where if you can control the car well, you can get away with less wing. More wing makes it much more planted, especially so in the very high speed corners.
     
  15. Jyyka Pihtari

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    I bet it's the tyres.
     
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    What track is it on, I'd be curious to try
     
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    The default setup has tons of mechanical grip understeer and a ton of aero oversteer. I was able to instantly shave 1.5-2.0secs at Suzuka by adding 2-clicks rear wing, more rear spring, less rear ARB, and minimum differential preload.
     
  18. Jyyka Pihtari

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    Yup, that's what I have pretty much done too. The problem I'm pointing out is evident FE after the last corner of Interlagos where you accelarate through the gradual left hander to the front straight. Instead of smooth slip, the back end does sudden jerks at the limit.
     

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