[WIP] Apex Modding - 1970 Sportscar Championship

nolive721 said:
Did set steering to hard instead of the soft as default but still no joy

Very low forces in the wheel, i have a SIMHUB FFB dashboard and it barely goes to 30% of the gauge

The Porsche feels and handles brilliantly by comparison so I wonder why such behavior with the Ferrari

Any help appreciated
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I had left your mod unattended because of not so much time for simracing but came back this weekend and I can honestly say now you nailed the FFB for the Ferrari, the setting on steering levels that wasn't doing anything for me few weeks ago now works brilliantly and brought the car at the same level of pure enjoyment than the Porsche.

really great job here with FFB updates:cool:
 
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Hi guys, you're all invited this Saturday! Sign up here: https://discord.gg/8NZ6DXj

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Track: Belgium 1966: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=537632245&searchtext=belgium
Cars: Ferrari 512S: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2337232570&searchtext=512s
Porsche 917k: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=782259180&searchtext=917k
Quali start time: Saturday October 23rd; 8PM EST/1AM UK/2AM EU
Quali: 30 mins
Race: 1hr
Ingame hour: 2:00PM
Time progression: x5
Ingame temp/ weather: 25c dry/clear
Tuning: open
Tyres+ fuel: authentic
Damage: on (50%)
Start: rolling start
 
I did 3 hours in the 917K last night at historic Le Mans, just wanted to tell you guys that I still absolutely LOVE these cars, had a blast driving with CMS and I just keep coming back to these, H pattern, heel and toe heaven.......
 
Yup can't agree more... superb mods great mix and very immersive at older tracks like le grand circuit and Rouen etc

thanks to all involved
 
ApexModding said:
Once we have published the 2021 Indycar beta, we will look into the windshield rendering that was impacted by the game update, and can hopefully roll out an update to the cars.
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Thanks, that would be wonderful as it looks a bit like a slightly misty day at the moment!
 
Take away from the race; the Porsche is no match anymore for the Ferrari. Not sure what changed as the two were better bop'd before when we raced them last year, but it looks like the Ferrari became very stable and it was already quite a bit faster to boot in a straight line. Before the Porsche was better in the corners (corner exit mostly), but that advantage has slipped away.

Can the bop be looked at again please, so the two can be raced together without it feeling like a multiclass race?
 
mister dog said:
Take away from the race; the Porsche is no match anymore for the Ferrari. Not sure what changed as the two were better bop'd before when we raced them last year, but it looks like the Ferrari became very stable and it was already quite a bit faster to boot in a straight line. Before the Porsche was better in the corners (corner exit mostly), but that advantage has slipped away.

Can the bop be looked at again please, so the two can be raced together without it feeling like a multiclass race?
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The biggest issue is "safely" recreating reliability issues to make the 512S a gamble, without infuriating users. We do have a couple of things in mind for a future revision but aimed at realism, not making it basically a league edition. We will also review what can be done about tires as the realroad system incorrectly lays too much rubber from these, so laptimes drop significantly when they shouldn't.

For now, the best we'd recommend is adding 20-50kg of ballast to the 512S, depending on the skill level of the drivers involved. We do plan on returning to 1970 as we have other cars to add and model variants, don't worry :).
 
Any news on the screen rendering, feeling like I need another fix of these and would like it not to be foggy!
Thanks for your continued work on these cars.
 
mister dog said:
Take away from the race; the Porsche is no match anymore for the Ferrari. Not sure what changed as the two were better bop'd before when we raced them last year, but it looks like the Ferrari became very stable and it was already quite a bit faster to boot in a straight line. Before the Porsche was better in the corners (corner exit mostly), but that advantage has slipped away.

Can the bop be looked at again please, so the two can be raced together without it feeling like a multiclass race?
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I came back to these cars today and they are such a joy to drive, the ffb and handling are sublime....you can place the cars where you want ... and the engine sounds!
A fresh look at the cars could be beneficial and a tweak or two if needed.....
I love your mod!
 
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The car "featured" a pressure gauge - the chassis was pressurised so that if one of the joints was failing the air leaking out would show up as a drop in pressure :eek: And the chassis of 917-053 was made of magnesium :eek::eek::eek:

Frank Gardners's tale of the first Porsche 917 is well known, here's a slightly extended version.

"Late one Friday in 1969 the telephone range. Hello Frank, this is Husche (von Hanstein). We would like you to drive our new car at the Nurburgring 1,000 kilometres this weekend. I said I was busy and recommended he call Brian Redman. 'Brian has had a crash, and is in hospital.' Jo Siffert was my next suggestion. 'Jo has had a crash and is in hospital.' 'What the bloody hell is going on there?' Our new car is not easy to drive Fank' - and he wasn't kidding!

"Porsche came to us because there was a shortage of drivers but the money was good so David Piper and I decided to take it on.

"These first cars had alloy tubular chassis, which was gas-filled to detect cracks. There was a big guage in the cockpit, which measured the gas pressure. If the guage zeroed, they said it meant that the chassis has started to crack, and they said I should drive home 'mit care'. I told them, 'If the needle zeroes I'll park the bastard there and then and walk back, pick up my Deutschmarks and go home'.

"The chassis flexed so much that the position of the gearchange was never the same twice in a row. You'd reach out for the lever and it wasn't there anymore. I was asked to drive it at Le Mans, the money was great too, but I told them 'I never wanted to be the quickest bloke in motor racing - just the oldest- and that Porsche was going to interfere with my plans.

"David did one lap at the Nurburgring and said he was too young to die. It snowed and poured, the car was snapping sideways and aquaplaning at the same time. It was one of the few times I extended my concentration levels above and beyond what I possessed, but we finished 5th".
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Vic Elford 1970...
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Another honour eternally preserved for Elford is being the only person ever to drive a Porsche 917 along the Targa Florio. “That came about due to the internal rivalry at the time between Ferdinand Piëch and John Wyer. They often butted heads, but as Piëch’s main driver I often benefitted when he had a point to prove. When we went to the Targa Florio in 1970, we all did our single Friday morning practice laps in the 908/3s we’d be using in the race. Then Piëch said ‘can you do me a favour and do a lap in the 917 we brought along? I want to prove something to Wyer’. It wasn’t set up with the soft suspension you needed for the Targa Florio, so it bounced and rattled its way around the entire 45-mile lap. I set the fifth fastest time overall in practice, but after that single lap I was too physically and mentally exhausted to get out of the car – I had to be lifted out. I could never have used the 917 in the race, but it was certainly an experience… although the road was only two lanes wide, I was probably doing well over 200mph down the seafront straight towards the end of the lap.”
 
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