Am I the only one thinking payware could be rFactor2's death knell?

How about 4 for a down payment? These bucks are hard to come by


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4 of them yeah cool they'll feed me for months lol
so now where bartering tracks/mods i'll give you 2 sheep 5 cats and 8 dogs for
lol
 
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If you want to charge money for mod content, you have to make sure there's nothing in it that wasn't created by someone else or pay them a royalty.

That's how friendships die and people end up in court, right there.

Or better: if you want to charge money for releases, maybe you should speak to ISI about becoming a customer. ;)

I have absolutely no problem with people asking for donations so long as downloads are not contingent upon paying them.
 
More patronising pap against anyone who dare have a different opinion than he does about payware..


Yeah I detest the idea ( IN ITS CURRENT FORM ) ................... but I don't insult the people that do.


Audacity for someone to say dont post here, don't look , don't download you don't like


HTF you think you are


*** your payware off to your own site and spread your BS and insults there.
 
Yeah I detest the idea ( IN ITS CURRENT FORM ) ................... but I don't insult the people that do.


Audacity for someone to say dont post here, don't look , don't download you don't like


HTF you think you are


*** your payware off to your own site and spread your BS and insults there.
It is not your place to say who can and can not post here. As proof, you are being banned for two months.

I am sick to death of your posts lately. And yes, if you do not want to support pay mods, don't purchase them. Sorry for being so 'sane' with that suggestion, the fact you choose to try to bully someone into not even offering their mod on the official forum for the title they are modding, is despicable. The opposite of the sane suggestion people are suggesting. If you read this when you come back, and still continue this crap, your next ban will be really meaningful.
 
More patronising pap against anyone who dare have a different opinion than he does about payware..
I don't care what your opinion is on this particular issue, especially when you are not accepting anybody with a different one. This isn't your forum. You are not in a position to tell any pay modder not to post here, as much as a free modder. Stop it.

ISI holds a "don't care" approach to whether a mod if free or payware. That's the forum policy, and anything against that is just starting to come across as bullying now. Vote with your wallet.
 
Anyway if payware is to stay here I think it should have a separate thread then everybody
has a choice.
Please explain this one. How do you not have a choice to take your money and somehow let someone else have it in this situation? You are the one with the power, not the modder... Honestly, unbelievable...............
 
This stuff has to stop. You need to act like adults and decide whether you want to pay for a mod, or not. You need to decide which side of this you fall under, and stop trying to bully everyone else into an opinion. If you want a paid mod, pay. If you don't, don't.
 
Man I started a good one didn't I? I just felt this was a hot topic that needed to be discussed in it's own thread instead of spreading all over which it seemed it was starting to do. Didn't know it was going to be the death knell of DurgeDriven. I think the personal attacks, for which I seen very few that were overboard, shouldn't come into this. Just the frank discussion of the payware mods. Just hate to see a guy get froze out from a thread I started.

Come on Tim, FREE DurgeDriven!! loll

PS: How do you paint the glass on the Corvettes?
 
ah...leaving this thread of nonsense...
You've actually been feeding this issue, and this thread, with your responses. You should stop responding to threads on this issue.

Just deal with questions about your mod(s). Let the issue debate itself.
 
Come on Tim, FREE DurgeDriven!! loll
DD's ban is the result of ongoing behavioral issues. I have no issues with him as a person, or his opinion if all he did was affected his own, but on a forum he gets way too many people upset, especially lately where he seems to have felt too much freedom.
 
Just for interests sake, what software do the payware modders use to create their mods, $3-4K commercial programs or ...cough cough..." academic " versions or just plain ripped versions, just interested to know.

LOL... Straight to the point, I had to quote and highlight this one... ;)

People are using illegal copies of 3dsMax, AutoCAD, Photoshop and so on but, in other hand, they're very demanding about "their" rights about copies, authorship of cars ; tracks and etc.

It's a world of falsehood and hypocrisy.
 
It's a world of falsehood and hypocrisy.

Mostly, it's a world of judgement.

I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few of the modders had real jobs where they were given real copies of the software to use legally. It's not really my place to judge people based on what I imagine to be true though.
 
Mostly, it's a world of judgement.

I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few of the modders had real jobs where they were given real copies of the software to use legally. It's not really my place to judge people based on what I imagine to be true though.

Yes, you're right since "quite few" means... about 0,000001% of them. I imagine the true based on the world I live. The premise that we are talking about a mostly legal world is false.

What the percentage of people who work on engineering, architectural or maybe earth sciences that have access to some expensive software required for a high quality modding? We don't have the number, but I bet my neck it tends to zero.
 
Mostly, it's a world of judgement.

I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few of the modders had real jobs where they were given real copies of the software to use legally. It's not really my place to judge people based on what I imagine to be true though.

I wish my boss would just give me 10k worth of software licenses, I could start my own company!
 
I wish my boss would just give me 10k worth of software licenses, I could start my own company!

I work in IT and I probably have tens of thousands of pounds of software available to me at work. And if I worked in a graphics design or CAD capacity within the same organisation, I'd have access to photoshop, autocad etc too. Legally.

The legality you are probably worried about, without knowing it, is that the work these people are producing may actually belong to their employers (check your contracts, guys!) and isn't really theirs to sell anyway. But what do you care? It's really none of your business.

Personally, I don't care either way. I'm not buying the pay-content. I'm just saying you shouldn't judge people on what you imagine to be true, regardless of how justified you think you might be in jumping to that conclusion.

Are we really so sad that this is the level of mud-slinging we are happy to sink to just because we don't want to pay for mods?
 
Exactly, available at work, it would be really weird if I were to start modding at work, right?

You are wrong about what I'm worried about. Or, worried, is maybe a word not very fitting here. What I think is that to me, it's not worth paying for mediocre modelling and worse physics, even it's a couple of bucks, when we have some, to me, brilliant cars in rF2 already. Even more so, charging money for licensed content such as Formula 1 and DTM stuff is a dangerous hobby if you ask me, and if you're talking about being worried, this sort of stuff might damage our sim and the way we enjoy it. Hopefully I'm wrong.

And yes, it's always worth checking contracts that is for sure, one of the reasons I choose to work on Zolder is that it doesn't interfere with mine ;)
 
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