AI behavior during Safety Car phase

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  1. RoboCAT10

    RoboCAT10 Registered

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    You can't blame him though and others. From the point of view from people affected by this bug it certainly comes across this way. If you introduce bugs and it takes months and months to fix them you are bound to have disgruntled customers. I'm not trying to have a dig, and I'm not going to bother to "complain" about the wet weather bug anymore, but I'm just saying.
     
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    That is interesting. I tested the Formula 3.5 ages ago and they worked fine too. The issue definitely happens with the Formula ISI cars though. Even the DESFV10 cars that are based off the former.
     
  3. The Iron Wolf

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    I still think appropriate and respectful tone approaching developers is far more productive, remember - they're people. In the end, respect, boundaries and constructive feedback will get everyone further.

    When I am getting frustrated about my bugs (the ones that most important to me) not getting fixed, I look around and check - is there better alternative to enjoy? No? So stay patient and respectful :)
     
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    This is not an official content, however I suspect this is still interesting case to debug, understand and document. It is either the code bug exposed by a track, or authoring issue that is probably good to understand. After all, rF2 is an open content platform.

    Senormen's latest Donington Park/National layout full BTCC grid 32 vehicles (NGTC mod + ISI Civic). FCY phase never finishes, 100% repro. SC passes all the cars. One unusual thing is very short pit lane and location of finish/start line, I wonder if it messes up in game FCY logic.
     
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    There are SC issues at Suzuka with the new GT3 cars too.

    Usually the first place AI car will follow the SC, but the second place car drives at a slower pace, often braking at weird intervals, causing a dangerous accordion effect behind. By the time the green flag comes out, the leader is usually 15-20 seconds ahead.

    While I'm not sure if this is 100% reproducible, it's happened in the 3 out of 3 SC periods I've experienced at this track since the release of the GT3s. This issue isn't new though, there's been weird SC ordering issues since ISI introduced Stock Car rules.

    There's one further AI quirk that is quite dangerous. When the full course yellow comes out, they all race back to the start-line at full speed, which is fine. The danger occurs when they cross the start-line and brake as hard as possible, instead of easing of the accelerator and gently coasting down to a safe speed.
     
  6. AMillward

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    I've had this at Suzuka and a lot of other tracks. I think it's a track issue since I've done races at Donnington, Queensland and Adelaide and in the latter two the cars have behaved well under the safety car.

    At Donnington and Suzuka for instance, they'll drive really quickly, slam on the brakes, speed back up, slam on the brakes and nobody actually catches up to the safety car. Or: The first five or six will and the rest never bother to catch up.
     
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    This happens at Sao Paulo too. I had races with FISI 2012, Marussia and F1RFT 2013 and can't remember exactly which of these races went into full course yellow but when it did happen AI was erratic as you described.
    Me + 12 AI opponents (100%, 25% aggression).
     
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