AccuForce Pro V2 with rfactor2.

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  1. RaceNut

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    So I asked Mika from Granite Devices about the possibility of working with SimX to provide OSW support in SimCommander and he confirmed that definitely won't happen but, didn't say why so I don't know if it's a technical reason or a business decision. He did say however, that there may be a 3rd-party telemetry option in the future - at least for iRacing (similar to irFFB).
     
  2. Marisa

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    Thx.
    A free, open source? solution to use game telemetry to generate FFB would be much nicer than having to buy sim commander.
     
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    Nope. Dead zone or lightness is removed in high power setting as well as smoothness filter. Adding friction just fills ffb.
     
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    I suspect it will be very limited and maybe, only for iRacing so . . . not anything like SimCommander at all but, maybe still useful. There is still the possibility that some programming wizard could create something more elaborate in the future for SimuCube but, SC4 represents many years worth of development and that's not easy to replicate. Thomas from Fanatec said they would attempt to do so but, I don't think it's an easy task and they have yet to deliver their Podium series.

    I would gladly pay twice the cost of SC4 to have OSW support in it but, I can understand those without similar experience not sharing my enthusiasm.:)
     
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    SimCommander 4 , great bit of software but has the worst navigation system and is not user friendly at all , must have taken me months to get used to it , it was SC3 then .

    Sayingt that — I love what it can do , new users will need a degree to use it’s features it has available :) and lots of testing , suppose that the advantage having an AccuForce .
     
  6. RaceNut

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    Yeah, SC4 takes some time to learn but, I read that SimX are working on improvements for version5 with documentation and more guides and tutorials so that should bring improvements . . . whenever it lands. o_O:)
     
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    Lol, i saw this written a while ago on a site helping people with Sim Commander:

    "You've finally got yourself the AccuForce wheel after many months of impatiently waiting. However, you forgot to earn your engineering degree in the mean time in order to figure out how to set it up correctly, didn't you?

    Fear not, as I happen to have one, and I am here to help you get yours too!

    The AccuForce wheel is a great work of engineering, however when it comes to Sim Commander's user experience, I'm not sure what's worse; that it displays more borders and lines than settings, or that it reminds me of my Uncle Yanni's audio amplifier stack from 1987."

    :D

    Maybe i should start Reading up on things a year Before i order my own hehe. Good to hear though that they are updating it with more help for noobs. :)
     
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  8. GTClub_wajdi

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    Hehe.... I already did homework in the last two weeks with SC4. I have it already ( 6 years) to run my Sim Vibe. My AccuForce Pro V2 will be shipped next week. I think it’s like every thing, you need some patience to learn it. They are working on SC5 that supposed to be more user friendly.
     
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    Hi
    I received my AccuForce V2 today and it doesn’t feel good to me . Does I have to change some setting in controller ini?
    Can some one please show me his setting for rfactor2?( SC4 setting to)
    Thanks
     
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    • First, are you using the AccuForce Preset in rF2? Without that, some effects will be too strong.
    • I suggest leaving the force-strength in SC4 high and use the game-FFB to determine the proper force output for you; that way, you can avoid signal clipping from the game-FFB. Start with about 50% (.5 in rF2) with most cars.
    • Check your Wheel Mode in SC4, the default may be quite tame but, may be okay for learning. I generally use Default mode as it tends to provide a good balance of detail and basic forces.
    • Most titles require some form of filtering or smoothing of the FFB with DD-wheels in order to eliminate the grainy feeling. There are various ways to do that but, the main one in SC4 is the overall Smoothing setting. You can turn that up quite a bit and notice the difference.
    • If you notice a loose feeling in the wheel near center, add a bit of friction (.5-2%).
    • Try the Auto-Tune feature in SC4; it will provide a good baseline setup for the game. Adjust the Smoothing from there as needed to get the firmness in detail you want, or as rubbery as you want the FFB details.
    • Keep things simple to start with; focus on Game-FFB first, not Foundation-FFB or the additional effects until you know the system better.
    • The main settings to adjust in SC4 are the fundamental ones that all wheels utilize: FFB Strength / Smoothing or Filtering / Friction and / or Dampening. You can usually turn the rest off and save them for later when you have a good feel for what the wheel can do and what effects you really want to have.
    Tuning the AccuForce is really very simple if you focus on the basic settings first and then, you can experiment with the Foundation FFB and bumps, suspension effects, engine-vibes, etc., later when you really recognize the limits and range of the DD-system. You can also try other AF-user profiles available in the SimX Owner's Club but, learn the basics of tuning in SC4 first.
     
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    Thanks. I did some adjustment in SC4 and it feels better. But with my old TS-PC for example I was doing the second and third fast curve on Watkins Glen easly full throttle , but with the AccuForce V2 it’s much more difficult. It’s like having a lot of understeer from that wheel.
     
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    It may take a bit of time to acclimate to the new wheel but, there's no reason the AccuForce shouldn't out perform your old one and give you more information to work with.

    Of course, a different wheel isn't going to alter under-steer behavior in the car-physics but, it may alter how you perceive it. Again, it's just a matter of getting used to how the FFB feels and what it's telling you. Generally, higher FFB-strength will improve under-steer cues even more - up to the point where you feel like the wheel is fighting you; then it's time to lower the strength a bit. ;)

    Also, check your controller settings in rF2 to be sure speed-sensitivity hasn't been enabled with a new profile. I've had that happen a couple of times. Due to the increased range of the DD-wheel, the effects may feel a bit spread out compared to some other wheels where the effects are more compressed into a smaller space. It also feels a bit different if Soft-lock is not working.
     
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    You are my hero my friend. I was really desperate,but you saved me. I checked my in game setting and the first thing that I checked was the steering speed sensitivity and guess what ? It was on 90%!!!!!!!! Lol. I put it on 0% and wowwww... finally I felt what does a DD steering wheel mean and how wonderful it feels. Before it was impossible to do high speed curve as it was a damn massive understeer even with cars with over steering setups. Thanks you my friend and now I’m going to refine more and more the setting in SC4 to have better feeling, but already I solved 90% of the issues with your help and advice. I love our rfactor2 community.
     
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    I'm happy to help a fellow Sim-racer and fan of rF2. :)
     
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