Date: 18th November 2017 Track: Nordschleife Server Qualifying: 1 week prior to the event, infos in a separate post Warm-Up: 11:45 UTC/GMT - 15min Race Start: 12:00 UTC/GMT - 24 hours Race Finish: 12:00 UTC/GMT Time scale: 1x Server time at race start: 13:00 Server time at race finish: 13:00 Weather: Real time with 100% chance of rain Deadline for skin submission: 2017-11-05 Infos: http://bit.ly/2xo8wTc
11 GT3 (4 Ferrari, 1x Z4, 1 McLaren, 1 Mercedes, 4 Porsche, 1 Camaro) and 2 Touring (Mitsubishi) were signed until now. I think there must be a lot more Nordschleife enthusiasts in the World . Come on guys, sing up and take part on the world greatest endurance experience . You have no community or no team? No problem, introduce your self http://p1-gaming.de/index.php?threads/fahrer-teams-suchen.23/ and find an cockpit or drivers for your team. You can not fail at this event unless you press ESC. Otherwise every destroyed car can be rejoin and compete until the end of the race, we all want to have fun and not to lost competitors. Challange yourself and contest 24h in the green hell
I want to also encourage anyone who can to get involved in this race. 24 Hours of the Nordschliefe in RF2 is nothing short of Epic. I raced in the first one organised by the same core team that became P-1. It was and still is the greatest sim-racing experience I have done. You will have drama, heartache, exhilaration. Topped off by the massive euphoria of a finish.
Three weeks until race. Now there are 20 signed GT3 cars, 3 Tourings. First testrace has seen an really fast, maybe overpaced, BMW Z4. There are: 5 Ferrari 5 Z4 1 McLaren 7 Porsche 1 Camaro 2 Bentley 1 Ford Focus 1 BMW 125i There are: 13 Brazilian 29 German 13 Hungary 2 American 2 Netherlands 7 Turkey 1 France 4 Italian 1 Australian 17 Spanish 1 Suisse 1 Romanian 1 Austrian... Drivers in the Grid right now . But there are some more seats free for you Sign up, bring up your skin until 05. November and take part on Nords2017... Come on, bring us up to 30 cars...
One of our teams got DQ last year for turning off headlights too early despite the visibility was good already. He probably oversaw the warning in the chat. It's not a critic but something you may want to check for this year's race. You seem to want to guarantee that all teams finish their race with the rejoin option.
Hi, i think too late you would say?! Yes, happens to us in Spa or Elkhart Lake if i remember right. But yes, it´s suboptimal, but it is necessary to activate the lights when it´s get darker, think about someone didn´t activate... So rejoin is an very good option in rFactor, but unfortunately not for all cases, like rF crash at session switch from Warmup into race, like it happend to one of our cars in Spa, race ended before start . For me rejoin should be possible in every situation, there is no problem to join into race with some laps gap, main thing is to participate. But i think best is, to drive from start on with lights, and an good team should manage, that every car has lights on, no later it is necessary. Someone need some appetizer? Watch the epic battle between Marc Lieb and Dirk Adorf in 2009
Will DQ penalties be taken away (/undq nick) apart of rejoin with new car measures? I think it would be the only way to avoid the potential problems with lights or maybe other issues that might end someone's race in early circumstances. Is this even possible or undq works only in practice sessions?
No no, every car had been undq after setting into pits. P1 can´t see it in every moment, but if some crew member told them via TS, they will short-check and undq the car, so they can leave the pits, for sure with loosing the lap where dq happens and the outlap until crossing starting line. But in motorsports sometimes issues costs time, i´m not angry with this, we have to take it sportsmanlike
Weekly Update: 24 GT´s, 9 Tourer, over 130 drivers from all over the continent... You too??? Next weekend Quali for epic 24h race on 18. November!!!
I put this in the video thread but will add here too. This is the race report from Hagemann Racing the winning team. Thanks! To start a massive thanks to the P1-Gaming team that put on this incredible event for the third year running. Administrators, BOP Testers, Website managers, Broadcasters. It’s a lot of work and its usual to get more complaints than thanks. The series keeps evolving and the level of the admin and stewarding support was excellent. It helped to make it the best one yet. As I sit to write this I have the stream playing here to keep me “in the moment”. I will probably write too much! Sorry. Building the team: Hageman Racing answered my post in the middle of the year looking for a drive and welcomed me to the team for Suzuka. From the start the collaboration felt good. Despite huge pace Lars and Bjoern were very approachable, modest and open to ideas on the setup. We had issues in Suzuka and Spa with contact from faster classes (LMP2s), but we still enjoyed the racing and looked forwards to “The Big One”. They let me tinker with setup and that was fun. We needed a 4th driver for a 24-hour event. I asked around at Avid Chronic Racing and American Cody Blanton who has a pretty strong AOR/Youtube profile as ACR Raven in the Codies F1 game, as well as some Formula SimRacing experience was interested. He had never done an endurance race before. We agreed to test and after one evening on the sever Cody was at my pace. After two evenings I had to push to stay with him. My only concern was that Cody could trade some lap time for keeping the car safe. I had shared a potential race winning drive with a “hot lapper” before. We talked about it a lot. The deal was done! Between then and the test race Blazej Myszk was in discussion with Lars and we agreed he would test too. He was clearly a good driver, a nice bloke and at the needed level but we felt 4 drivers was the best number. We didn’t want him to miss a drive, so we spoke to Horizon and put them in contact and Blazej drove for them in Car #65 doing a great job. It seemed we had a team with good depth and good standards across all drivers. Setup In an endurance event this process is always interesting and can be tricky finding the compromises to suit the majority of drivers but also work for the weaker drivers in terms of ease of driving. We had a good base but managed to continue to find evolutions. Lars and myself were going very quick on the server and trading top lap times. The time came for more full stint length testing and we had a rear tyre wear issue. The last 2 laps were tricky. We made a change and it was solved but the car was under-steery for me but perfect for everyone else and good in the wet! Lars and Cody were flying with the set and I felt good with it but had lost about 2 sec / lap. It was compromise time and it was my turn to compromise in the cockpit and pit menu. I found enough in rear tyre pressures increase and a brake bias move rearwards to get a balance for me but still not the same pace. Still it was stable and safe over a full 8 laps so that’s all I needed. Fuel Endurance: With a change to 6th gear Lars was able to easily get 12.5 lit/lap on mix 2 (8 lap stints vs 7). My consumption was more like 13.1. I had to short shift to hit the fuel numbers. Losing more than 1 sec/lap nullified the stint length saving which was 3 stops or about 3m 30sec over 24 hours. Cody started to hit the fuel numbers too which was just as annoying as his pace! Who found that guy anyway? We decided to go for 8 lap stints if possible but to monitor pace and hope that some traffic and slipstream would help me. Other testing; We did 2-hour events against AI in changeable conditions to learn the crossover point in both directions with the drying line and the off-line wetness. We did a rota to “follow the sun” and work Cody in the USA harder when it was unsociable hours in GMT time! Race Start Lars had P3 which was perfect, out of the traffic and danger? Maybe not! The Safety Car spun in the formation lap and braking to avoid it caused a car to hit Lars from behind. He suffered damage. It could have caused bigger issues with long term damage or re-joins and impact the outcome. As it happened a quick resolution was agreed with Race Direction to simply run another formation lap and allow damage to be repaired and start racing next time around. Lars and 2-3 other cars had to pit and work his way back to P3 in that second lap. We are aware that not all teams liked the idea but in our view 8 litres and a set of tyres that had maybe 1-2% less wear but were colder would not swing the result of the race. Lars was concerned about T1, his concerns were well founded. He was tapped and spun and started the first lap 17th instead of 3rd. So much for qualifying in the second row. That unfortunate event created a situation for Lars to shine. He showed his judgement as well as his pace and the first 2 hours of the race were a master class in endurance racing. He had the added pressure Pizzo on his gearbox who had great pace. I was with Cody in another channel while Bjoern supported Lars in German. We were tingling with excitement and pride and chatting away about pace and traffic. At 22hrs 13 mins to go he was fighting Blazej for P6. Horn and Fernandez were fighting like mad for P1 and that suited us just fine. When Lars pitted for the second time he had passed 10 cars in the same class, saved fuel and run two 8 laps stints, even led for one lap. Lars doesn’t talk much in the car, we would hear the occasional “got him!” when he made a pass. His only words on exiting the car “That was fun!”. We were working our way back into this race! 2 hrs 41 elapsed; Bjoern took the car; He exits the pitlane in P7. He looks after the car, settles for a few laps and starts to deliver consistent, solid laps. I comment to Cody that where it now gets interesting is as driver changes occur, our depth should help, we felt we had no #2 drivers. Lars first pit stop sees him leave pit lane in P3! Around 5-hour mark I get the wheel. I did 2 laps on the practice server and was hitting 8m:24. I was very stiff and nervous on lap 1, it was a few laps before I loosened up and started to feel the car. I was following the fuel strategy, but the pace was not quite there. Best clean lap was 8:28. I had to fuel save and had 0.4 litres in pit lane. On my second tank of fuel and frustrated by my pace, I increased the fuel mix and dropped to a 7-lap stint. After a while I was chasing and catching the BMW Z4 in P2. After a spicy lap we passed him for P2 on the road. The leader had an unscheduled stop and that again put us once again briefly into the lead. 7h15min I hand over to Cody. It rains, and Cody drives a monster wet stint for 16 laps to catch and compete with the leaders Black Hawk Racing. Black Hawk are fast in the wet too. The track is drying and there is a chance that the pit stop might coincide with the crossover to slicks-just! We start discussing tyres. It’s not 100% clear slicks are do-able. We look at the lap times and see that they have now dropped to 9min with the occasional 8:57 from Black Hawk. We feel that we can do a 9-min lap safely on slicks by keeping carefully to the drying line and it will only get faster. We leave it to Lars to make the final decision. He agrees to slicks.
Part 2 Lap 65 Lars Takes the car again. It’s very tricky, leaving the drying line would mean a crash. Black Hawk pitted on the same lap but took rain tyres again. Lars was immediately 5 sec faster but it was not easy, really on edge.(EDIT; Actually for 2-3 laps it was slower as well as tricky then the crossover really occurred) Four laps later Black Hawk were forced to pit again for dry tyres. The lead! We had seized a moment and Lars had made it work. The tyre call bought us about 70-80 seconds gap. We could breathe a bit easier but not cruise. It got wet again around the next fuel stop and Lars just continued to deliver consistent laps in the wet. The pressure was now on our competitors. Lap 81 Cody was back in the car. He had a 3 min lead. It was mainly wet and Cody drove a perfect stint to catch and lap P2. We now had a clear lap lead. It was half way and 12 hours left for anything to happen. Lap 99 Lars took over again. He maintained the gap at around one lap and a minute or so with an error free stint. Lap 110 Bjoern was back in the car, it was wet. I returned from sleep from midnight to 4:30 am and joined Cody on the pit wall. Bjoern took a few laps to come up to speed which caused Cody some anxiety on “the pit wall”. We had a big lead, but Black Hawk were “on it” and some laps they stole 12 secs! Bjoern made a great save by avoiding a spun car in the mini carousel, I told Cody that save was worth probably 3 minutes! Cody went to bed. I promised him we would “fly the flag”. Lars went to bed at 6am. I supported Bjoern, he started to relax and lap time deficits to Black Hawk who were flying, started to come down. Bjoern had slight damage and needed to pit 1 lap early. The pit stop came at the perfect crossover time to slicks and Bjoerns eye was in. The gap to Black Hawk stabilised. Things started to look very good. Bjoern reported a top speed issue. We were down 12 kph on the Dottinger Hoe. Once in the sever I checked them and they had the same issue, slightly worse. I did some maths. 7 minutes lead with 41 laps left meant they needed 10 sec a lap. But Bjoern was holding them now and the laps were counting down. I did more maths before entering that car. They now needed 12 sec a lap unless we made an error. Lap 125 Bjoern handed me the car, he had done a great job! Kept the car safe, kept most of the lead and we were still 1 lap ahead. I was much more relaxed this stint. It was still a wet track with drying line and the feeling came quicker, but with 60% wetness offline it had to be treated with respect. As the track dried and grip evolved I was holding or slightly building the gap to P2 matching and beating their best lap times. I started to really enjoy myself! One press of a button! The first tank of fuel put us in a position to take back the full lap on Black Hawk. I passed them stationary in pit lane and the moment I did I thought “awesome that’s a lap” and released the limiter! Stop go penalty. On pit exit, Mike Horn was now in the car and any top speed issues seemed solved because he was monstering me to un-lap his team. I asked Bjoern to let them know that I was going to serve the penalty this time around so no need to take risks. It was a fun lap and I entered pit lane to serve my stop-go. Second Press of a button! On that second tank of fuel I foolishly started to think too much about maths. I looked at the remaining time and tried to figure pit stop strategy. How many times would we pit? Did I need to save fuel and run 8 laps? Can we maybe run 75 litres from here to optimise the needed 3 stops? In that moment I reached the Dottinger Hoe and looked on my rig for my fuel target card. It was just under the edge of my keyboard. I reached for it and bang! Suddenly I was sitting a BMW in a pit garage looking at pit lane! I had accidentally touched the + or – key and moved my view to another car while doing 250 kph! My heart rate was about 230 bpm as I tried to get back in my car by pressing + or – multiple times. I had started to word my apology to my team mate. Had I pressed ESC? Was it all over? Finally I was back in my car. It was stationary on the right side of the Dottinger Hoe, no damage at all in 5th gear. I started off again and wiped the sweat from my brow. It had so nearly been all over. All too soon Lars was back. He returned 3 hours after going off to bed. I suggested I could do another stint, but he was ready to bring it home. Third Press of a button! I felt a bit better about my button presses when Lars got a stop- go at his stop when he double tapped the limiter. We did some more fuel maths. We had 6 minutes or so gap so we could fuel save a lot but not do 10 laps. We did a quick splash and dash for 30 litres. Lars slowed on the Dottinger Hoe to hit the line just after 24 hrs elapsed and we had done it! In closing: Lars had done a mighty drive in the car that bears his name. Cody had adapted across to endurance racing like a pro and been a monster in the wet. If any of you wonder whether pace in Codies sims can be real, maybe you have part of the answer. Bjoern (who did his first endurance race in VR) and I had done our part by out-driving the teams that chased maintaining the gap, keeping our car safe and forcing the errors. The whole team came prepared, made good calls and left nothing to chance. It was awesome!!!! We can’t do this review without recognising the organisers which we did earlier. We also want to recognise the many talented drivers and teams that raced here. Several of them were or could have been major threats if they had a clean run. Black Hawk pushed us hard and we could never take our eyes off them. The TXL team was very fast and had they been on the same lap as us we would have sweated a lot. When I said to Cody after 2 hours that even from where they were they could podium I’m not sure he believed me. We could fight clean and fast with drivers like Mike Horn and in the opening laps Daniel Pizzo and have no fear of contact. That was quality racing. Touring cars and lapped cars did a great job and overall a lot of respect was shown. The stewards set the tone by showing that they would not tolerate any “crap” and the grid responded. Thanks also to Apex Modding for a great car set. They have worked for months and years to optimise their GT3s. (They know I love the 911). I hope that the P1 Gaming Endurance Series continues to grow in strength and prestige but keep its “spirit”. Please invite your fellow sim racers to make the next one even better. Please may we have a Bathurst 1000? Or 12 hours? I would love to host you as an Australian.
