Hello, I recently upgraded to windows 10, but I don't know, I only guess my problems might be coming from there. I have a weird ffb-situation. While driving, all is normally until I hit the curbs, where force pulls to the opposite position. I also think that any disturbance might be doing this, as all is good until I loose trraction. This means, I feel like my ffb has partially been inverted. I also tried with new drivers. The last build should not be responsible as rf1 is doing the same. Anybody experiencing similar problems? thanks rfguy
So, if you drive to hit a curb on your right it causes an ffb response pulling the steering more to the right?
try to re-detect your controller in the controlls settings, and try again, if it helps, u gonna have to remap all of your keys to this new re-detected preset
it actually causes it to steer to the left and it wasn't like this before - is bouncing off the correct behaviour? Before it was like unpredictable.... increasing force, while actually getting further off track.
I think if you drove your right front tyre into a bump...it should cause a resultant toruqe action that is trying to turn the steering wheel direction to the left. To expect it to continue pulling in the direction of the bump would seem rather counter intuitive to me. So it sounds like to me it's working correctly now whereas it was not before.
Well, as it's not behaving too strange and I did not get off track that often, it might be working better now, if this is the correct behaviour. But wouldn't there be any resultant friction, causing a resistance that would turn the steering _towards_ the curb. I have never driven a real car into a curb...
Thank you for your support. I found a controller.ini here: \Program Files (x86)\rFactor2\UserData\player Don't kow if it is in use. I will post the ffb section here. I cannot access the location you mention (which surprises me) [ Force Feedback ] Type="1" // Type of force feedback: 0=off 1=wheel 2=joystick 3=rumble/gamepad 4=custom Ignore controllers="0" // Do not use FFB on: 1=controller1, 2=controller2, 4=controller3, 8=controller4, 16=controller5, 32=controller6 (or add values to ignore multiple controllers, for example 63 ignores all) Skip updates="0" // Apparently some drivers can't handle a quick FFB update rate, so use this hack to skip the given number of updates (0=full update rate, 1=half, 2=one-third, 3=one-quarter, etc.) Steering effects strength="10000.00000" // -10000 to +10000, applies to all steering effects (torque, resistance, static spring, jolt, etc.) Off-road multiplier="0.30000" // Temporary test variable to reduce force feedback strength off-road (0.0 = zero FFB, 1.0 = full FFB) Steering torque filter="9" // Number of old samples to use to filter torque from vehicle's steering column (0-32, note that higher values increase effective latency) Steering torque per-vehicle mult="1.00000" // Per-vehicle steering column torque multiplier (this is a copy of the .CCH value) Steering torque zero-speed mult="0.30000" // Multiplier at zero speed to reduce unwanted oscillation from strong static aligning torque Steering torque sensitivity="1.00000" // Sensitivity curve applied to representable torques: 0.0=low 1.0=linear 2.0=high Steering torque minimum="0.00000" // Minimum torque to apply in either direction to overcome steering wheel's 'FFB deadzone' caused by friction Steering torque extrap time="0.01500" // Time in seconds to extrapolate steering torque based on current change (Range: 0.001 to 0.050. To disable, set 'blend' to 0.0) Steering torque extrap blend="0.00000" // Higher blends of extrapolated value allows driver to feel torque changes even when actual torque exceeds 'input max' (0.0=disables, 1.0=max) Steering resistance type="0" // 0=use damping, 1=use friction Steering resistance coefficient="0.10000" // Coefficient to use for steering resistance. Range: -1.0 to 1.0 Steering resistance saturation="0.10000" // Saturation value to use for steering resistance. Range: 0 - 1.0 Steering spring coefficient="0.00000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0) Steering spring saturation="0.10000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0) Rumble strip magnitude="0.00000" // How strong the canned rumble strip rumble is. Range 0.0 to 1.0, 0.0 disables effect. Rumble strip wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down. Rumble strip pull factor="1.50000" // How strongly wheel pulls right/left when running over a rumble strip. Suggested range: -1.5 to 1.5. Rumble strip update thresh="0.05000" // Amount of change required to update rumble strip effect (0.0 - 1.0) Jolt magnitude="1.50000" // How strong jolts from other cars (or walls) are. Suggested Range: -2.0 to 2.0. Throttle effects strength="10000.00000" // -10000 to +10000, applies to all throttle effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?) Throttle effects on steer axis="0" // 0 = Throttle effects on throttle axis, 1 = throttle effects on steering axis. Throttle spring coefficient="0.10000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0) Throttle spring saturation="1.00000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0) Brake effects strength="10000.00000" // -10000 to +10000, applies to all brake effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?) Brake effects on steer axis="0" // 0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis. Brake spring coefficient="0.30000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0) Brake spring saturation="1.00000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0) Clutch effects strength="10000.00000" // -10000 to +10000, applies to all clutch effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?) Clutch effects on steer axis="0" // 0 = Clutch effects on clutch axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis. Clutch spring coefficient="0.20000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0) Clutch spring saturation="1.00000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0) Gearbox effects strength="10000.00000" // -10000 to +10000, applies to all gearbox effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?) Gearbox effects on steer axis="0" // 0 = Gearbox effects on gearbox 'axis', 1 = brake effects on steering axis. Gearbox spring coefficient="0.00000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0) Gearbox spring saturation="1.00000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0) Other spring coefficient="0.20000" // Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0) for any other FFB-capable controllers Other spring saturation="1.00000" // Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0) for any other FFB-capable controllers I will try this plug-in this weekend. Thank you again!
Ok, this explains another problem. I only had a backup of the ini-file, I revived after reading I had to use it to manipulate the parameters but this info is totally outdated as I just learnt. I just the last json I generated ingame looks like this and I see some difference, not only but especially regarding especially in rumble strip section: "Force Feedback":{ "Brake effects on steer axis":0, "Brake effects on steer axis#":"0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis.", "Brake effects strength":10000, "Brake effects strength#":"-10000 to +10000, applies to all brake effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?)", "Brake spring coefficient":0.3, "Brake spring coefficient#":"Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0)", "Brake spring saturation":1, "Brake spring saturation#":"Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0)", "Clutch effects on steer axis":0, "Clutch effects on steer axis#":"0 = Clutch effects on clutch axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis.", "Clutch effects strength":10000, "Clutch effects strength#":"-10000 to +10000, applies to all clutch effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?)", "Clutch spring coefficient":0.2, "Clutch spring coefficient#":"Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0)", "Clutch spring saturation":1, "Clutch spring saturation#":"Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0)", "Gearbox effects on steer axis":0, "Gearbox effects on steer axis#":"0 = Gearbox effects on gearbox 'axis', 1 = brake effects on steering axis.", "Gearbox effects strength":10000, "Gearbox effects strength#":"-10000 to +10000, applies to all gearbox effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?)", "Gearbox spring coefficient":0, "Gearbox spring coefficient#":"Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0)", "Gearbox spring saturation":1, "Gearbox spring saturation#":"Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0)", "Ignore controllers":0, "Ignore controllers#":"Do not use FFB on: 1=controller1, 2=controller2, 4=controller3, 8=controller4 (or add values to ignore multiple controllers, for example 15 ignores all)", "Jolt magnitude":1.5, "Jolt magnitude#":"How strong jolts from other cars (or walls) are. Suggested Range: -2.0 to 2.0.", "Off-road multiplier":0.3, "Off-road multiplier#":"Temporary test variable to reduce force feedback strength off-road (0.0 = zero FFB, 1.0 = full FFB)", "Other spring coefficient":0.2, "Other spring coefficient#":"Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0) for any other FFB-capable controllers", "Other spring saturation":1, "Other spring saturation#":"Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0) for any other FFB-capable controllers", "Rumble strip magnitude":0, "Rumble strip magnitude#":"How strong the canned rumble strip rumble is. Range 0.0 to 1.0, 0.0 disables effect.", "Rumble strip pull factor":1.5, "Rumble strip pull factor#":"How strongly wheel pulls right\/left when running over a rumble strip. Suggested range: -1.5 to 1.5.", "Rumble strip update thresh":0.05, "Rumble strip update thresh#":"Amount of change required to update rumble strip effect (0.0 - 1.0)", "Rumble strip wave type":0, "Rumble strip wave type#":"Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.", "Skip updates":0, "Skip updates#":"Apparently some drivers can't handle a quick FFB update rate, so use this hack to skip the given number of updates (0=full update rate, 1=half, 2=one-third, 3=one-quarter, etc.)", "Steering effects strength":-10000, "Steering effects strength#":"-10000 to +10000, applies to all steering effects (torque, resistance, static spring, jolt, etc.)", "Steering resistance coefficient":0.1, "Steering resistance coefficient#":"Coefficient to use for steering resistance. Range: -1.0 to 1.0", "Steering resistance saturation":0.1, "Steering resistance saturation#":"Saturation value to use for steering resistance. Range: 0 - 1.0", "Steering resistance type":0, "Steering resistance type#":"0=use damping, 1=use friction", "Steering spring coefficient":0, "Steering spring coefficient#":"Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0)", "Steering spring saturation":0.1, "Steering spring saturation#":"Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0)", "Steering torque capability":2.5, "Steering torque capability#":"The maximum torque capability of the wheel (in Nm, obviously)", "Steering torque extrap blend":0, "Steering torque extrap blend#":"Higher blends of extrapolated value allows driver to feel torque changes even when actual torque exceeds 'input max' (0.0=disables, 1.0=max)", "Steering torque extrap time":0.015, "Steering torque extrap time#":"Time in seconds to extrapolate steering torque based on current change (Range: 0.001 to 0.050. To disable, set 'blend' to 0.0)", "Steering torque filter":4, "Steering torque filter#":"Number of old samples to use to filter torque from vehicle's steering column (0-32, note that higher values increase effective latency)", "Steering torque minimum":0, "Steering torque minimum#":"Minimum torque to apply in either direction to overcome steering wheel's 'FFB deadzone' caused by friction", "Steering torque per-vehicle mult":1, "Steering torque per-vehicle mult#":"Per-vehicle steering column torque multiplier (this is a copy of the .CCH value)", "Steering torque sensitivity":1, "Steering torque sensitivity#":"Sensitivity curve applied to representable torques: 0.0=low 1.0=linear 2.0=high", "Steering torque zero-speed mult":0.3, "Steering torque zero-speed mult#":"Multiplier at zero speed to reduce unwanted oscillation from strong static aligning torque", "Test_workaround":true, "Test_workaround#":"Workaround for apparent driver CTD on release", "Throttle effects on steer axis":0, "Throttle effects on steer axis#":"0 = Throttle effects on throttle axis, 1 = throttle effects on steering axis.", "Throttle effects strength":10000, "Throttle effects strength#":"-10000 to +10000, applies to all throttle effects (force, vibration, static spring, etc?)", "Throttle spring coefficient":0.1, "Throttle spring coefficient#":"Static spring effect rate (-1.0 to 1.0)", "Throttle spring saturation":1, "Throttle spring saturation#":"Static spring effect peak force (0.0 to 1.0)", "Type":1, "Type#":"Type of force feedback: 0=off 1=wheel 2=joystick 3=rumble\/gamepad 4=custom" },
