third party mods section ( waste or worth having ?)

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  1. coops

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    This would have to be the biggest waste of space on this forum.
    Everyone wanted somewhere to find content more easier than having to search the net.
    Its a real shame modders don't use it to its full potential.
    I for one am very disappointed that myself and others and any new ppl coming to use this sim for the 1st time will have to search the big wide web just to find content. ( i dont have a problem i can search and look but the time i spend is a joke when there is a place for this. imagine what new ppl say about it. )

    If someone knows how to run a poll on this i would much appreciate your help to add to this thread or start a new one.
    1:On weather it is a waste having third party section.
    2:Or worth having the third party section.
     
  2. P.S.R.

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    No poll needed. Anything is a waste that isn't managed. Thinking you can have a page or forum without management is so 1996. FYI, this thread will be moved to Forum Problems.
     
  3. coops

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    TYVM P.S.R didn't think of posting it there.
     
  4. Maug

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    Coops doesn't have an issue with the forum, nor modders do. This thread is fine in this section. It is a discution related to the usage of a tool provided by ISI on its forum for modders. Not a thread about technical problems.
     
  5. Guimengo

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    It's a section that isn't actively pushed to modders. Some have content there therefore it is valuable. It would be great to have something like rfactorcentral.net but ISI couldn't run it itself since it would only allow for scratch made material or legal conversions.
     
  6. Spinelli

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    Don't quote me on this but I think I heard that ISI has to approve content and there is a waiting period for that.

    I agree that it's a little crazy searching countless threads and countless pages and posts. I've even seen updates buried in random posts amidst a huge thread full of posts.

    At the very least the OP should always immediately and clearly be updated with the most recent version, and info of the most recent version like release date, update notes, etc. along with a new post in the thread announcing the update.

    Having said that, some people use autodownloads in servers and ISI have the direct download option from the launcher which is a ton of potential (more 3rd party content, mod info, pics, etc. or even just a link to the mod's official thread will do).


    It would be awesome it the thread-starter had an option to make the thread a temporary sticky - let's say for a week or so - and with some flashy graphics/fonts signifying an update or a flashing icon or something. This way, when searching the mod section, you'd instantly see any mods updated in the past 7 days as stickies (with some sort of flashy graphical representation) at the very top of the threads list. That would make finding mod updates so easy - just check the first page of threads once a week for any highlighted sticky-threads. No need to always be checking and searching 900 threads and discussions in-case there just happens to be an update for one/some of them.
     
  7. Ozzy

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    If the Launcher gets extended to allow better searching and to show more information about the components, then the Mod Section will be definitely obsolete. (Unless the Launcher and the Mod Section would use the same database)
     
  8. Golanv

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    The amount there is mods for rF2 at the moment is just ridiculously low. Simple things like a nice looking F1 style replay hud (actually I havent found any replay huds or overlays), that there is prolly 10 of them for rF1, are non-existent.
    Good tracks (ISI, Tuttle, feels3) are extremely rare. There are few nice cars around, but umm... no tracks to fill out a championship schedule so thats kinda pointless.
    Skins... well URD mods get some loving, and maybe random skins for random ISI cars. Best thing yet has been the 2014 Indy skin pack, other than that... meh.

    If the modding scene could be revived, maybe the "mods section" would be less useless.
     
  9. Spinelli

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    Paintjobs (skins) are the best thing yet? I couldn't disagree more.
     
  10. hariseldon

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    There are a decent number of mods I'd be happy to run, the tricky bit is that there is also a hell of a lot of absolute dross (ie straight RF1 conversions), which makes sorting the wheat from the chaff problematic, and typically it can be difficult to find a selection of tracks for a series that are of sufficient (and consistent) quality.
     
  11. buddhatree

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    It really doesn't matter what any of us think. It's ISI's forum, not ours. Who are you or anyone else to say what is a "waste of space"? I mean really.

    Really strange threads being started.
     
  12. Golanv

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    Try to read the whole sentence.
     
  13. Spinelli

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    Oh, you were only talking about skins and not actual mods. Sorry about that.
     
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    I could not agree more. Where are the modders? Maybe they worked a lot on rF1 mods so they are tired. rF2 content is ridiculous compared to other Sims. ISI people are very lazy. But obviously I choose quality over quantity. At least on rF2 I feel like driving something instead of just paying some game. That's way I am here struggling to extract more content from the lazy ISI people instead of playing it on other Sims. http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php/25420-Porsche-911-historic-and-American-muscle-cars.
     
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    I would say that avoiding conflicts might not be your speciality :D
     
  16. coops

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    exactly
     
  17. coops

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    Its called freedom of speech and i bet a lot of ppl would like to see it used and managed better than it is, it was asked for in this forum i bet. So should i start telling you what you can say and post. I MEAN REALLY!!!!!
    PS....... Modders have said they have tried to use it but cannot post there.
    PSS....... I suppose your posts are always worth reading i bet NOT....
     
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    This is a big issue for new players that is for sure, it was for me and it still is a pain in the ass sometimes. I did once make efforts to create such a central DL area for all 'usable content' myself but abandoned it. It just needs a certain amount of cloud storage.

    Probably the problem here is legal issues? Or maybe it is not I am not sure. If I did it probably would not end up in any trouble but if ISI set up central DL area for all 3rd party content maybe is more of a risk? Posting an external link in aforum is different to physically hosting that file.

    If so probably the thing to do is for several people/leagues to chip in a small amount of dollar and purchase decent amount cloud storage that will cover the content, and make a very simple webpage to access them. I nearly did this for all usable tracks and cars, I think it was gonna cost £60 to get necessary storage capacity.
     
  19. matf1

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    Just my opinion. Why does it have to be compared?

    Why can it not be it's own thing.

    Which is the same that rF1 was.

    Which was successful.

    I may be in the minority in feeling that success is not measured by money but rather, that you achieve what you set out to achieve.
    To date, I've not seen one mention of ISI comparing rFactor 2 to other titles.

    The other titles exist because they saw a gap in the market and filled it. That does not mean every sim now has to do what they are doing. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


    On topic. The problem has existed before and it won't be solved without funding. In other genres I've played in the past they were community driven until they were big enough to commercialise.

    The middle ground would be to allow trusted volunteers (guys from the test teams?) management of a community portal.

    ISI may not want to put the finger in this pie directly but like many projects in the past, they are strong community drivers!
     
  20. buddhatree

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    It's PPS, not PSS.
     

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