I don't know what ISI did, but their FFB implementation (at least with my CSRE) is unbelievably good. This, after 20 years of sim racing (starting with a CH yoke and rudders playing 'Car and Driver'), is the first time I can truly say that the wheel feels exactly like the real deal. I've also had a minimal amount of experience driving on tracks (starting in '82 with my dad's Schnitzer 323i at Road Atlanta and most recently with my own M6 at VIR), and I can tell you that (for an amateur like me, anyway) rF2 + CSRE is a fantastic training tool for car control. Great job, guys. You've really raised the bar on this one.
Hey, What settings are you using for the wheel? I've tried a couple different variations and it's been definitely getting better but I would be interested in what you and other CSR Elite owners settings for the wheel are. Thanks,
I've never driven a racing car in real life, but for me the FFB is 10/10 too, and been playing since the old 8-bit days of Nigel Mansells Grand Prix Its maybe a long shot, but would love to see this FFB implemented in Rfactor 1, as it does feel awesome, especially in the 60s cars. Rfactor 2 has so much potential in general, which is great to see
I kept everything stock, except I lowered the FFB to 0.4 or 0.5 in the controls settings. I prefer a number of different wheel degree locks, depending on the type of vehicle. I set that within the Fanatec wheel app in Windows. 270deg = open wheelers 460deg = race cars 900deg = street (the Megane Trophy cars work well with this - and even have the proper animation of the hands turning the wheel!) No other tuning required. No messing with arcane ini files. It just works. And it's the best FFB I've ever felt. By the way, the new GT Legends (that Simbin recently released via digital distro) also works extremely well with the CSRE (although not nearly as good as rF2). Again, no real tuning needed: just turn down the FFB to 50%, set the wheel lock and go. Be sure to always set the wheel effects to "low" in all ISI-derived sims so you don't get a bunch of crap canned effects. Man, is this fun. rFactor2 combined with the CSRE is what I always dreamed about all these years. Finally! Now bring on the mods
how do you set the wheel effects to low in rfactor 2? I too have a csr elite and have been tweaking it for rf2, have an issue with my wheel now though its making a clicking noise when i turn the wheel even when its powered off, contacted tech support now to sit and wait :/
That's correct. Most people know to set it to Low, but it's a bit counter-intuitive to the uninitiated...
By the way, I was sorry to see you having a hardware issue with your CSRE. It's such an amazing wheel, but I can't recall ever seeing so many reports of these small faults with other wheels - except perhaps with other Fanatec wheels Fortunately, mine "only" had a dead power brick. 20 days later, I'm still waiting on a replacement. I had to go get a universal model for the princely sum of $79.95. Still, it's the best wheel ever made. Assuming you get a good one. I think the situation will improve as they perfect the production process on this very new piece of equipment.
I have the CSR Elite too and can confirm that with RF2 the Race Feeling is the best i ever had. Better than any other sim i ever drove........no need for iracing (with its strange New Tire Model) anymore.
I heard all this great stuff about the FFB in iRacing and so I tried it today. Even bought $40 worth of cars just to be sure. Well, it sucks. It does an ok job of self-centering appropriately and it's ok for determining when your fronts lock up under braking - but that's about it. I never felt the wheel go light as the front tires began to slip. It feels totally numb compared to even rF1. And rF2 is in an entirely different league. Not impressed.
hi is this possible to a CSRE owner to make a quick "test video" on rf2 ? to show reactions of the wheel in specifics action to give an idea thanks bye
I played iRacing at a LAN event at Road America a couple of years ago and wasn't much impressed with their FFB either. It was supposed to be a demo for a high quality wheel/pedal setup, too, so that was a bit puzzling. I have paid more attention to the rF2 FFB this week when driving (G25, stock rF2 settings) and have to admit it's noticeably better than rF1 so far. My only minor concern is that the static, car-at-rest force when initially starting to turn the wheel seems a bit lighter than when the wheel has moved a few degrees - whether the wheel is on-center or not. I've heard people ascribe this to the G25 gearing, but my G25 has no problem with the static force on GPL. (Sorry, I'm really not a GPL fanboy, and their dynamic FFB is years out of date, but the static force just feels right) Edit: as noted in the other FFB thread I have to recant and state that the static force is just fine. Comparing a GPL F1 against one of the rF2 F1 models convinces me that there's no problem with the ISI code; perhaps my prior opinion was based on a car with a less refined suspension model, like the FR3.5...
For that price range perhaps. Pretty sure the ECCI 7000, possibly the Frex and some other even less known and more expensive wheels will still be better. =)
ecci 7000? frex? How come there is so much rich people on the internet? I though you were on the street occupying stuff with the Crysis. Then another guys asking to pay 100 euro for a freaking mod...hard times.
There is one user review of CSR-E compared to FREX mk1, and the guy wrote it's better than FREX. If he would have choice between CSR-E and FREX he would go with CSR-E.
Has anyone tried the CSR non-Elite with rF2? I'm looking for an alternative for my G27 that doesn't cost $540. Also, is the non-Elite even available? The Fanatec on-line shop says AVAILABLE but when I click "buy it" it is not listed. It's hard to believe my G27 has gone from really great to total sh!t overnight. Edit: Let me add this request of you Elite owners... Can you decsibe how the static, car-at-rest force feels when initially starting to turn the wheel. As Bob Dobbs has described, his G25 (and for me the G27) give no initial resistance to turning the wheel. I feel a very definite ramping from zero to max resistance over about 1 or 2 degrees of rotation. (With a very small but definite zero resistance zone.) The same effect happens when veering from a straight line at speed except of course the "max" resistance is less.
Aparently the Elite has a bit better feeling than the standard CSR. My question qould be is the standard CSR much better than my G25 (With its FFB starting to die)
