WIP Vehicle will not start (actual version and release candidate)

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  1. Brutten

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    Greetings.

    I am preparing our annual karting championship and I find myself with the surprise that our mod has stopped working.

    The vehicle does not start. If I force it out on track as AI it does it correctly and when I take manual control I can run until it goes into neutral gear, then it fails again.

    I tried with the Kartcup 2014 mod and I find that the same thing happens to it.

    What can it be due to?

    That my mod fails may be relatively normal although we have been running more than six years with him but that also happens with the official mod Kartcup misleads me.

    The error occurs with the current version and with the release candidate version of rFactor.

    With the previous version it works correctly.
     
  2. Javibeza

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    Hi,

    v1131 has broken some other physics like steering tables and messed up FFB at some caster values...
    So maybe this is just another one side effect of some game code changes that we don't know about.
     
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  3. Brutten

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    Thank you very much @Javibeza I felt very lonely without answers.

    The problem is also in the candidate version, I hope they locate the error before January, which is when I organize the annual Karting championship.

    Until this happens I will have to use version 1.1130 to continue editing the mod.
     
  4. lagg

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    @Brutten the Release Candidato and the 1131 are the same nowadays, then it's logical that the problem happens in both builds.
    I've no idea about the problem, sorry.
    The only thing that comes to mind i if there has been any change in autoclutch.
     
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  5. Brutten

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    Thanks @lagg
    I thought the release candidate was more advanced.

    The curious thing is that only Kart Cup and my karting mod fails, other mods work correctly, even KartSim.
    The funny thing is that if I force out my vehicle with automatic pit and take control again it can run until I stop and I can no longer start the kart in any way.

    It is probably some parameter of the HDV, or the Engine, that has stopped working or needs to be updated.

    I hope that the friends of S397 read this problem and can solve it.
     
  6. davehenrie

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    Helps to tag a few of them, @Coutie , @Alex Sawczuk . Good luck, sure seems like a strange problem.
     
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  7. Brutten

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    Thanks @davehenrie

    I don't like to abuse tags but you are absolutely right, in this kind of bugs maybe it is necessary to do so.
     
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    Remember you can always check here to make sure what build is being used.

    https://steamdb.info/app/365960/depots/
     
  9. Brutten

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    Thank you.
     
  10. lagg

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    You can ask in the Modding - Cars forum too
     
  11. Coutie

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    You can send it to me in a pm and I'll look at it.
     
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  12. DJCruicky

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    I can also confirm the Kartcup 2014 mod has issues for me too.
    When you enter your kart, the Karts engine stalls after 2 seconds if you do not have your foot on the accelerator pedal.
    If your speed is over 25 KPH, then the engine does not stall when you take your foot off the accelerator pedal.
    If your speed drops below 25 KPH and your foot is off, then the engine stalls.

    Does not matter if you have the Aid Auto Clutch On/Off.
    Does not matter if you add increase 'Idle throttle' in the setup page.
     
  13. Brutten

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    At the moment I have had to go back to V1.1130, it is that version does not fail.
    While they repair this error is the only thing we can do.
     
  14. Coutie

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    Technically, for me, it did start, it just won't idle, so if you give it a bit of throttle, you can drive. I did report it though, because that's not how it's supposed to work.
     
  15. Brutten

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    Thanks Coutie.

    The vehicle wants to start but immediately stalls and then restarting is practically impossible.
     
  16. Brutten

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    @Coutie @Alex Sawczuk
    Wow, I was hoping that this problem had been corrected in the new RC but I just tested and the error still occurs.
    The kart starts if you step on the throttle, but when it drops in turns it stalls.
     
  17. redapg

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    @Brutten When i have that Problem, that an Engine stalls, i edit the 4th Values in the RPMBase= Lines, which is for Idle/Throttle.
    It seems to be 0 in most Cases when the Engine stalls.
    Use something like 0.05 (needs some Testing sometimes) for all Lines that have the same or a lower RpM than the Idle RpM.
    Normally the Problem gets solved with that.
     
  18. Brutten

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    Thanks @redapg , I'll try it out right away.
     
  19. Brutten

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    The patch proposed by @redapg has worked for me.

    Still it would be nice if it could be fixed for those who want to race kart and don't have knowledge to edit content.
     
  20. Bernat

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    Yesterday I tried to drive the Kartcups in the RC and the kart immediately stalled. Same thing with the Superkarts mod.
     

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