Pc for rfactor2

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  1. kitcarflo

    kitcarflo Registered

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    Hello i would like your help to configure my new pc. New pc for Rf2.

    Box
    BitFenix Nova Fenêtre - Noir
    ( https://www.materiel.net/produit/201702281027.html#aff225 )

    For alimentation, i think this :
    Textorm TX500+ - Bronze - 500W ( https://www.materiel.net/produit/201608050093.html#aff225 )

    For the motherboard, I hesitate between two models:
    MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX ( https://www.materiel.net/produit/201908050011.html#aff225 )
    MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ( https://www.materiel.net/produit/201908050012.html#aff225 )

    For Ram memory, it will be this:
    G.Skill Flare X Black DDR4 2 x 8 Go 3200 MHz CAS 16 ( https://www.materiel.net/produit/201810080052.html#aff225 )

    For the graphics card, I hesitate between two models.
    Inno3D GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER Twin X2 OC ( https://www.materiel.net/produit/201907030004.html#aff225 )
    Asus RX 5700 TUF OC ( https://www.materiel.net/produit/201908290083.html#aff225 )

    Hard disk
    Seagate BarraCuda - 1 To - 64 Mo ( https://www.materiel.net/produit/201609090152.html#aff225 )
    and
    Kingston A2000 M.2 PCIe NVMe - 250 Go ( https://www.materiel.net/produit/201908180001.html#aff225 )

    and
    Asus Graveur DVD - DRW-24D5MT - Noir - OEM ( https://www.materiel.net/produit/201608170035.html#aff225 )

    In Option
    Be Quiet Pure Rock ( https://www.materiel.net/produit/201410130181.html#aff225 )


    What do you think of the configuration and what do you recommend as a motherboard and graphics card ????
    Thank you for your answers.
     
  2. Love Guitars n Cars

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    How about CPU?
    What resolution will you be running?

    You should be just fine running any RTX card or equivalent however rFactor2 doesn't use real time tracing.

    I chose my motherboard based on cpu obviously but also by the type of connections it had in the back. Motherboard shopping can make your head spin for sure.

    For power supply bigger is better in my opinion. I have a 10 year old 750W Corsair that is still going strong.
     
  3. Remco Majoor

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    It's a Ryzen is all we know. But it's a very important part of an rF2 build
     
  4. t0p5ecret

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    I would recommend going with the Nvidia card mate, I swapped from a 1070 to a 5700XT and it has been a nightmare, half baked silicon and software. If you want to do any encoding of race footage stick with Nvidia as well as the AMD encoder just isn't there yet.
    I regret not getting a 2070. B550 Boards are out now as well so consider that over a B450.
     
  5. davehenrie

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    500W power supply? 850W would be my minimum.
     
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    What would he need 850 for?
     
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    fans up the wazooo! possibly two vid cards, extreme cpu cooler, USB ports scattered all over the cases, and Intel or Ryzen super dooper cpu, I always look ahead, not where I am. I'd rather have an understressed powersupply than one straining to provide that last extra watt.
     
  8. Lazza

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    From a "bigger numbers is BETTERERERER!!!!" viewpoint you're right. From any sensible hardware related point of view, 500W is fine, won't be straining, and will be more efficient. This isn't 2012 and he's not talking about 3-way SLI.
     
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  9. Travis

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    I'd look for a case with better airflow; you'll want at least one intake fan (and obviously one exhaust fan) and preferably with a dust filter on the intake fans. Options include (but aren't limited to):

    Fractal Design Core 1000 - https://www.materiel.net/produit/201511100039.html
    Zalman ZM-T4 - https://www.materiel.net/produit/201311060094.html

    Cases can be expensive however if you choose wisely, the case you purchase now can be used many times over in future builds.

    For the power supply, I wouldn't go for the cheapest. Use a power supply calculator such as https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator/ to work out the watts you require and select a reputable brand (Corsair, Seasonic etc). I believe 500-550 watts would be sufficient for your build.

    Regarding motherboards, I'd stick with the B450 motherboard unless you really believe you need PCIe 4.0 right now. A B550 motherboard has PCIe 4.0 and is therefore considered more 'future proof'. As B550 boards are new to market, prices are high and will add at least 70 Euro to your build cost.

    The B450 Tomahawk Max is widely considered the best all-round B450 motherboard and is what I'd recommend. AMD have confirmed B450 will support the new AMD CPU's releasing this year.

    Stick with Nvidia for the GPU; the 2060 Super is a great card for the money. Reports on the 5700XT are mixed, including on the forum, and if you're looking to play AMS 2 or ACC, the graphics engines (Madness and UE4 respectively) these are known to run better on Nvidia hardware.
     
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  10. DrivingFast

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    To determine which PC to buy you must first know : single screen or triple + resolution or VR.

    And also you can accept low, medium, high end graphics quality ?

    All the equipment to buy will depend on that.
     
  11. Igor

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    English is not my native language so I believe I am not the best one to explain you the things about power supplies. You need to see output on +12v rail/rails in amperes, think if you will OC the graphic card, processor, etc... I could write pages

    BUT never go with the largest power supply you can buy. Because every power supply has an efficiency map and you will be working out of range 85% of the time... is like buying a naturally aspirated high rpm race engine to drive it on the street... it kind of works but it was not designed for it (bad example, I know)

    A bad rule, but not so bad rule of thumb is to calculate maximum wattage you will be consuming and multiplicate it by 2 (it is a bad rule because sometimes you connect blue ray device, etc and get a peak... but it will not be representative).

    Most graphic cards and gaming setups work fine with 600w, very few has higher demand... in "new" video cards it would be vega64 with OC

    What you should look for in power supplies are the certifications (that are not a very good indicator either, but for average consumer it does the job, because you will not be opening and examining which components are inside the power supply): these are 80 PLUS, 80 PLUS bronze, 80 plus SILVER until 80 PLUS TITANIUM. In few words, higher certification means more efficiency (but not more quality in the product... hahaha)

    And sorry for not helping a lot....
     
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  12. kitcarflo

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    Hello.
    Thank you all for your responses.
    What happened is that I asked on a forum, for PC advice, a configuration running on 1000 €, for PC. In order to gain performance, the cost of assembling the PC would be 0, because I would do it myself. This allows to pass this on to the price of the parts.
    The configuration that I wrote in my first post, gives a price of 1180 € (purchase of Windows 10 included). I would like not to go more than that ,,, otherwise my wife will make me stop simracing :oops::(

    I am currently play with a 24 "screen
    https://www.cdiscount.com/informati...vx2457-24-fhd-dalle-tn/f-10732-vx2457mhd.html
    I have this screen for 2-3 years. And why this one ,,, I got it for 80 € ,,, it was a very good deal.
    I don't know if I would do the Triple Screen, but I think at least the Double Screen and never VR.
     
  13. Comante

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    I would apply the lobster walk to your decision process: start from the end and walk up to the start. : decide what are your desired performance, like resolution , details and FPS. Find the GPU that an grant those performances, future proof a bit your choice , then decide which CPU and SoCKET can serve you longer. Find the appropriate MoBo , compatible RAM and the rest are just details.
     
  14. DrivingFast

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    @kitcarflo

    A GTX 1080 and an I7 4770K @ 4.2 Ghz allowed me to put rF2 at 95% in full ultra on A FULL HD SCREEN, with AA ingame at the maximum and to get 60 FPS all the time in almost all race conditions with 60 AI.

    Only in heavy rain + a lot of track reflections + a lot of rain spray + sunrise + high timescale and on demanding tracks and mods I could go down to 45 FPS. In addition Nvidia Control Panel was in maximum quality (high quality textures + no optimizations + negative LOD clamp).


    COMPARE WITH WHAT YOU EXPECT TO BUY (there are sites for that).
     
  15. Comante

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    Does not dismiss the 2nd hand market, I'm upgrading my PC with high end outdated equipment.. and guess what... they still work. For example, in september when a new wave of GPU will hit the market, my plan is to buy a used Vega64 (yes I know that people of Rfactor prefer Nvidia, but I'm on the other side).
    I've just installed a I7 4790K, it work at 4.5 GHZ on all cores with a minimal overclock, I'm sure it will be good enough for many years to come. You can have one for around 150 dollars.
    that is just an example. There is newer hardware that probably is more future proof, mainly because is on a more modern socket.
     
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  16. Igor

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    Comante,

    I am really intrigued by your PC. In raw performance I would think a Ryzen 5 3600 would outperform in almost everything your intel i7 4790K, and it has the price around 150 dollars new just as much as your intel... (a little bit more if it is new). Maybe intel is better at fps for rfactor2 or games in general, so there goes my question, why choosing i7 4790K?.. for most of the tasks I would recommend a ryzen 5 3600

    Another thing... a used vega 64 would cost you just as much as a new rx 5700 xt... so maybe a better decision would be buying a new rx5700xt (spending 100 hundred dollars more for one of the best gaming radeon video card available right now)

    For a normal user I would never recommend buying used hardware or refurbished one... it is a safer choice to buy new parts at respectable dealers (including internet and some ebay/amazon sales)...
    Of course, if someone is young, has a very good knowledge in hardware, is willing to take risks, etc used hardware is a very respectable choice... but most of the times it is just not worth the risk, because in case of failure you just lose time replacing it (and my time is money... it is a time I do not spend working neither enjoying a sim, and if this guy is married... believe me the last thing you want to say is "Darling, something from my new pc is broken")
     
  17. Comante

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    Well, I've choosen the I7 4790k because is the fastest CPU that my MB can support, I've bought the mobo many Years ago when LGA1150 was quite new, with the I5 4640 I used since. I didn't want to make my PC from scratch , changing RAM, NOBO and almost everything ,but wanted some more hoomp. About the GPU you are right, in fact I will wait until september and see how prices go by then. The rx5700xt is probably a better choice, but time will tell. At the present moment my PC is weak on the GPU side of things, but not being the kind of guy that pretend max detail or full antialiasing, I can still enjoy it. After the new GPU will be unable to push future games to my expectation, I will make a new system, but I think my current hardware served me well for a very long time, and injecting some upgrade here and there instead of restarting from scratch every 3 4 years felt way cheaper to me (maybe not, but I don't want to discover the truth :D )
     
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