R9-290 or GTX-770 4GB ??

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ViSo, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. Cpt_Johann

    Cpt_Johann Registered

    Joined:
    May 30, 2012
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    0
    Another AMD user rolled back to 12.11 +CAP2 here.

    A massive thanks to everyone involved in finding out that rolling back was a good plan!
    These were taken in b380 with the same settings and with particles off:

    With 13.12 drivers:
    Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
    6156, 200180, 19, 48, 30.752

    12.11 drivers:
    Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
    8315, 199962, 33, 50, 41.583

    Better than 50% improved minimum framerate! Most of the time it was 38+ rather than sub 30 :D <3 <3 <3

    I'm off to see if that makes Crysis 3 run noticeably slower....


    Please can we have this put up in flashing lights somewhere?
     
  2. Golanv

    Golanv Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2012
    Messages:
    1,041
    Likes Received:
    9
    2x GTX 760 is faster than 780 Ti, opportunity to save some money there if 2 GPU setup doesnt cause grey hairs.
    R9 290 is faster than GTX 770, but more expensive aswell. That being said, it is also half the time faster than GTX 780 aswell so... decisions, decisions.
    All this is incase you play more than just rF2... Unfortunatly rF2 is allergic to AMD cards, and personally my decision to purchase a 400-600€/$ card is not going to be based on one game.
     
  3. Murtaya

    Murtaya Registered

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2012
    Messages:
    531
    Likes Received:
    0
    With SLI you need to factor in the cost of the power supply and obviously electric consumed. When you look at that I don't see the point. I was going to get a second 770 gtx but now I think I'd be better off with one 780ti. My psu would be borderline at 750w (would work but probably not reliably overclock) and sli/xfire is always a gamble with micro stutter. Not seen anyone raving about the performance of sli with this title (or any for that matter) not one sli benchmark submitted. Hmmm what is it about sli that makes you still want to have it? Must be the voodoo 3d legend living on.
     
  4. Spinelli

    Spinelli Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2012
    Messages:
    5,290
    Likes Received:
    32
    OC it to 4.2-ish Ghz and do the EXACT same test, would be interested in the results
     
  5. Ricknau

    Ricknau Registered

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2011
    Messages:
    778
    Likes Received:
    39
    OC'ing my CPU from 3.3 to 4.2 made almost no difference in my FPS. OC'ing my GPU gave roughly proportional FPS increase.

    But it would be interesting to see his difference.
     
  6. Nuno Lourenço

    Nuno Lourenço Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2010
    Messages:
    593
    Likes Received:
    65
    No diference here with a 780 Ti on a 3770K from 3.5ghz to 4.5ghz
     
  7. MJP

    MJP Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2010
    Messages:
    988
    Likes Received:
    21
    +1 on it making very little or more likely no difference at all. Of course we don't know what res/settings he's using but if he's getting 130-140 FPS they can't be that heavy. Academic anyway as due to Intel gimping Haswell non K cpus even more than before, best he can do is 3.4-3.6GHz depending on number of cores used.
     
  8. Flaux

    Flaux Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2010
    Messages:
    1,012
    Likes Received:
    422
    Hey guys, I'll keep on rocking win xp till April and would like to try out those 12.11 beta11 drivers in the meantime. Poorly it looks like there are no XP versions of this driver. So my question is, which whql driver might come near the performance of the beta11 driver. 12.2 maybe?

    Oh and this right here is a very good topic. Good job everyone!
     
  9. Spinelli

    Spinelli Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2012
    Messages:
    5,290
    Likes Received:
    32
    Oh your right, i was thinking 4670k when i read it.

    The test in replay mode is less intensive overall than live, I have figured this out from tons of rf1 and gt legends benchmarking. 1 am extremely suprised a mid 3 ghz being overclocked to mid 4 ghz had no observable difference with a 780 ti.

    I just got my new cpu, gonna put a mega benchmark up in a bit once I install the build together and do all the tests. All different combos between overclocked, non-overclocked, hyperthreading on, hpyerthreading off, 6 cores, 4 cores. RF2 will definitely be one of the games.
     
  10. Steinschmeisser

    Steinschmeisser Registered

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2012
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have running the ram now @ 1600mhz. And set the voltage a little bit higher. I think the ram had before some issuses with the board. The ram was braking my system. I have seen in this thread, that my system was running to slow.
    Sry for my english..
     
  11. Spinelli

    Spinelli Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2012
    Messages:
    5,290
    Likes Received:
    32
    What was it at before?
     
  12. Bjørn

    Bjørn Registered

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,821
    Likes Received:
    919
  13. Spinelli

    Spinelli Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2012
    Messages:
    5,290
    Likes Received:
    32
    Man all the people that posted here really need to get in on that thread, there is no way this is a 100% ISI coding problem and 0% AMD proplem when the game happens to work much, much better with NVidia hardware.

    The RFactor 1 engined stuff is irrelevent also because not only is that a different engine, but I also heard reports (but can't confirm if it's true) that even RFactor 1 ran much better with NVidia GPUs than AMD GPUs.
     
  14. keanos

    keanos Registered

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2012
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    Maybe as said in the amd-forum, more developers should go away from directx, to OpenGL or in case of AMD to mantle.

    I think it can only be good for the future (Steam-Machines/SteamOS based on Linux) to have another graphic-api.

    And as said there AMD looking for developers who would use mantle, and maybe there is more support for such a
    small company like ISI.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 8, 2014
  15. Dave-NRT

    Dave-NRT Registered

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2012
    Messages:
    364
    Likes Received:
    2
    Zotac GeForce GTX 770 OC 1111MHZ 4GB 7.0GHZ GDDR5 Is the card I just bought, If it ever gets here...

    225 miles from there warehouse to here...and they shipped Canada Post Express..2 day service...They lost it!!

    Tracking shows it was shipped the 27th of December... It went MIA..any-one that has bought online..and it disappeared, Knows what
    happens next..if not..a waiting game.

    I paid $415.13 all in..

    Dave

    NRT
     
  16. Spinelli

    Spinelli Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2012
    Messages:
    5,290
    Likes Received:
    32
    EVERYBODY THAT IS EXPERIENCING LOWER THAN EXPECTED RFACTOR 2 PERFORMANCE WHILE USING AN AMD GRAPHICS CARD/CARDS, PLEASE FILL OUT A QUICK SURVEY DIRECTLY TO AMD'S DRIVER DEPARTMEMT TO BE HEARD

    Link is in this thread http://isiforums.net/f/showthread.php?t=17860
     
  17. coops

    coops Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Messages:
    1,680
    Likes Received:
    9
    Or go buy a NVIDIA card where you have a company that is supporting new SIMS AND GAMES. Not sitting on there BACKSIDES do nothing while customers get PEEEEED off.
     
  18. DrR1pper

    DrR1pper Registered

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2012
    Messages:
    3,294
    Likes Received:
    36
    If you have the cash, i'd cancel that order and purchase another and wait for the refund on the first.
     
  19. SmellySkidmark

    SmellySkidmark Registered

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2012
    Messages:
    500
    Likes Received:
    173

    Just an update, all is working ok except RF2 when I install Fazerbox's HUD then I'm in the poo again, so no hud fer me :(

    SS
     
  20. xAcid9

    xAcid9 Registered

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2012
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    1
    Can someone that is using Catalyst 12.11 upload their atiumdag.dll file? You can find it in C:\Windows\System32
     

Share This Page