Jeremy Miller tweets (Senior Programmer at ISI)

@jeremymmiller
Building 329 in a couple of minutes. Will need testing. Should have a load of fixes. Possible unstable release. We will see. 50/50

 

no thanks to unstable release

I rather wait one more week to get stable release.

 

Hence the "We will see" but thanks for the tip.

 

Possible unstable release? I hope that means for internal testing

 

A dose of penicillin should do the trick

 

Software usually becomes "unstable" when it has some major changes introduced.

So, unlike longer wait for build 298, this may actually be a good news. If this, or one of upcoming builds proves stable and it gets released, we may move ahead a little more than usual.
"Should have a load of fixes" indicates this as well.

 

I think that releasing unstable builds with obvious flaws and bugs such as e.g. reflection issues is perfectly ok as long as its a Beta game. But as far as I know the Beta period is over?? To me that means that we could rightfully expect that every released build works like intended without any obvious bugs - and then the product naturally evolves with new fully functioning features for every new build. If its not Beta anymore the customers shouldnt be the testers anymore. Furthermore I dont understand how the shadows popping up / lod issues / bad AA / Flickering lights etc could survive the transition from Beta to "evolving product". That should be fixed as an absolute minimum before going out of Beta.

 

Stable and a load of FIXES sounds good will be worth waiting for.

 

Just don't get paranoid over "possible unstable" guys
Considering that they moved to a new compiler with build 298, I'd say that one could also be called "possibly unstable". It had some issues that were immediately fixed by build 300 and now it's fine.

 

There should be a term "K Szczeched"... I've been a victim of this educational phenomenon my self and am wiser for it.

 

I wonder sometimes if the guys at ISI sit around at the end of each day and one says to the others, "Hey guys, look at this cryptic message I just put out" and they all sit there laughing as tens of people debate the meaning on this forum...

 

Of course they do...wouldn't you? Some of these nimrods make for some pretty entertaining reading

 

Maybe they're setting Tim up for loads of questions later

 

You usually don't do that kind of things intentionally, but you end up laughing anyway
Poeples hunger for information makes them go too far with conclusions... often in the wrong direction

 

I'll summarise pretty much every rf2 tweet ever posted.

"We may or may not release something eventually"

 

haha

 

This!

If ISI want they could now and then make "Beta-Builds" available for those who want to test it (like nVidia or ATi Beta-Drivers), but the Public-Builds should simple work fine...

 

Thats what i suggested weeks back to. Beta builds more often so we can test and report them more. Somehow ISIs beta testers usually concentrate on new stuff implented only from content or what is added to the game and they forget to check other stuff that is than broken and becase of that we get every second build that brakes something like reflections.

Another thing would be good to hear more on modders what is needed to be implented like the diferent light styles, light flares, driver animations and more we are only putting into wishlist sofar and some of those small things we wish for would make modders life far more easy to live with.

 

I've suggested this internally as well (releasing of RC in dev corner, unannounced, then releasing bug free announced build later). Just got to wait and see what happens.