The car is hard to control for the first few laps

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  1. Michael Juliano

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    The new tire model REALLY makes proper tire warming important. When you first leave the garage the tires are not up to their operating temperature and thus are quite slippery. Simply "burning rubber" isn't enough--it takes strong laps at racing speed to build up the internal tire temps. Some tires actually take a good 4 to 6 laps to bring them up to proper temperature. Keep this in mind as you are working on a setup--you have to turn a few laps to get a good feel for the changes you've made.

    This effect can be compounded when driving on a "green" track. The lack of rubber on the track surface can have a radical effect on how the cars feels. You'll find that as you progress through a weekend and the track continues to "rubber in" you may need to alter your setup to compensate.

    On a "green" track with cold tires you'll need to be EXTREMELY cautious until things start to warm up.
     
  2. CdnRacer

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    Sounds awesome!


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  3. ESP=EWE=

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    oh yeah....love the sound of that :)
     
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    Been waiting for this for so long... Really great stuff :D
     
  5. Michael Juliano

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    Not trying to tease or anything, btw. Just adding things I know will be asked as I think of them :)
     
  6. coolmike

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    Sounds good to me! Can't wait to get my hands on it :)
     
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    lol I didn't mean the beta per se, I meant that feature (along with truly "live" track).

    Having a true live track with a realistic tire model has been my sim race dream for a long time now :)
     
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    See....the private mod for rF1 we had, already did that for us...as well as optimal pressure etc etc...but I can tell you...with the addition of rubber etc...I really fricking cant wait :)
     
  9. Slothman

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    I sooo wanted to see

    Subject: The Car is to hard to control for the first few laps.

    Content: Suck it up princess and learn to drive...

    NOW THAT would have been a great FAQ post...
     
  10. sg333

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    Scott, is there any difference in this sense between the "old" 1960's tires of the 60's F1 cars and the tires on the new(er) cars?
     
  11. Kev Higgins

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    Great to hear Scott! - Thanks!
     
  12. 88mphTim

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    You mean within the 1960's cars still? Not to me, no... You should find yourself driving well below your (or rather the tires) limit the first few laps regardless.
     
  13. frankwer

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    Doesn`t sound promising for us that is used to first turn pileups :)
     
  14. mikeyk1985

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    I am going to last about 3 seconds with my non ffb xbox wheel, really wish I still had a g27 :(
     
  15. Max Melamed

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    That sounds to good to be true! :D Imagine that in Le Mans or Nordschleife :D dude im curios how that's gonna feel :D ISI thx!
     
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    Thats cool and hard, but real driving. like that ;)
     
  17. pirolla

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    this got me thinking on the first turn on amateurs leagues... ;)
     
  18. Michael Juliano

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    Um... Yeah :)
     
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    Hi Scott. Just a thought but will there be something to tell us when the track is green or rubbered in like a HUD icon from green to red or at the monitor screen some info as to the track condition? As in this example from another post of yours.

    Also would it be time based on the weather as to when the track is "lost" from rubbered in back to green? e.g if it rains for 10min or more then the track will become green.

    Cheers mate.
     
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    Also wind factors would come into play if there is substantial amounts
     

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